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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      The M557 command says where you want the probe to be. So choose the starting and ending positions to be places that the probe can reach and are over the bed and not right at the edge. Something like X10:265 should be about right. Also change the X offset in the G31 command to -25.2 or whatever you have measured.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • GrodanBundefined
        GrodanB
        last edited by

        Seem like the severe faults was due to the old sensor… just needed to spend more money on my printer...

        Have not checked all but decided to just mesh level and print after changing and it worked... does not look like the mirroring feature is still there.

        I'm investigating further... SO weirdness is less... and now I "only" have to understand the coordinates...

        Thanks for the help so far. Seems like the SMD version is a real big step in getting more reliable results.

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        • GrodanBundefined
          GrodanB
          last edited by

          I FOUND THE FAULT…

          Finally I have now gotten to the point where I now understand why the Duet seem totally weird.

          Here is my script that seems to work:

          [[GCode]]
          M561                    	; clear any bed transform, otherwise homing may be at the wrong height
          G31 X0 Y0                	; don't want any probe offset for this
          T0                          	; select first hot end
          G91                         	; Relative coordinates
          G1 Z4 F6000                 	; Lower bed to avoid hot end dragging in bed.
          G1 X-350 Y-240 F3000 S1     	; move up to 240mm in the -X and -Y directions until the homing switches are triggered
          G1 X6 Y6 F600               	; move slowly 6mm in +X and +Y directions
          G1 X-10 Y-10 S1             	; move up to 10mm in the -X and -Y directions until the homing switches are triggered
          G90                         	; Absolute coordinates
          G1 X150 Y100 F3000          	; Go to bed center and home the Z axis
          G30                         	; Home Z-axis			    
          M557 X25:300 Y12:188 S25     	; Bed level from X25Y12 to X300Y188 in ?mm increments
          G29 S0                      	; Auto Bed Level and create report	
          ; Z probe parameters
          G31 T1 P500 X-25.2 Y0.0 Z1.78
          G1 X70 Y200 F3000           	; Dock after bed level. Move first in front of docking notch
          G1 X70 Y235 F3000           	; Dock after bed level
          
          

          The reason for my problem was simply that the G31 that was run in config-override palaces the probe outside T0 print range… Now I begin with removing that... (G31 X0 Y0) and suddenly it works...
          But still does not probe X300 column wonder why? Last is X285 which nicely adds with 25 to X300...

          Anybody who can explain that?

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          • GrodanBundefined
            GrodanB
            last edited by

            Found that to… Wow sometimes 18 years in software development helps...

            This line

            [[GCode]]
            M557 X25:300 Y12:188 S25     	; Bed level from X25Y12 to X300Y188 in ?mm increments
            
            ```Need to be:
            

            [[GCode]]
            M557 X25:301 Y12:188 S25 ; Bed level from X25Y12 to X300Y188 in ?mm increments

            One more that allowed then the mesh leveling works as I want…
            
            Maybe some future improvement in the firmware? or is this wrong?
            
            Also run the repeat-ability test of the probe:
            M98 P0:/macros/ProbeRepeatability
            G32 bed probe heights: 0.054 0.055 0.054 0.054 0.053 0.053 0.054 0.054 0.054 0.054 0.050 0.053 0.053 0.054 0.052 0.051 0.053 0.053 0.052 0.052 0.053 0.052 0.052 0.054 0.051 0.051 0.052 0.052 0.053 0.053 0.053 0.054, mean 0.053, deviation from mean 0.001
            
            The IR probe that is sold on the Duet site is clearly repeatable... Really nice to have this run. Now I most likely never need to run it again...
            
            Only problem with this is that the map is 25mm offsetted... That is that when the T0 is on X25 the probe is at X0... realy wish that I could get this result using the probe coordinates instead... or I manually shift the height map... that is
            
            

            [[ height map.]]
            RepRapFirmware height map file v2 generated at 2018-00-07 21:10, mean error -0.083, deviation 0.100
            xmin,xmax,ymin,ymax,radius,xspacing,yspacing,xnum,ynum
            25.00,301.00,12.00,188.00,-1.00,25.00,25.00,12,8
            -0.259, -0.271, -0.277, -0.247, -0.212, -0.109, -0.104, -0.103, -0.149, -0.199, -0.314, -0.343
            ...

            to
            
            

            [[ height map.]]
            RepRapFirmware height map file v2 generated at 2018-00-07 21:10, mean error -0.083, deviation 0.100
            xmin,xmax,ymin,ymax,radius,xspacing,yspacing,xnum,ynum
            0.00,276.00,12.00,188.00,-1.00,25.00,25.00,12,8
            -0.259, -0.271, -0.277, -0.247, -0.212, -0.109, -0.104, -0.103, -0.149, -0.199, -0.314, -0.343
            ...

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
              last edited by

              The question is, what do you most need to correct for: the bed being uneven, or the height of the print head not being constant e.g. because the rods that it travels on sag under the weight?

              If the rods don't sag at all but the bed is uneven, then the height map is correct as it is, because it is the probe that gets positioned at the probe points, not the nozzle.

              If the bed is perfectly flat but the rods sag or are bent, then you are right, the height map is offset. But you can fix it by setting the XY offset of the probe to zero in G31 and adjusting the M557 grid definition to avoid probing off the edge of the bed.

              If part of the problem is the bed and part is the rods, then the only solution I know of is to use the nozzle itself as the Z probe.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • GrodanBundefined
                GrodanB
                last edited by

                Everything looks like rod sag.

                If you look at the code above I do remove any probe offset to get the probe to probe the two last columns.

                Of this only the X=300 cannot be reached….

                Also I needed to go beyond max to get it to use max... (301 instead of 300 for X)

                So by removing the probe position with G31 I got one more probe column.

                This gives me the questions

                1. Why 301?
                2. What does the duet do when printing in the columns that is not probed?
                3. Is it ok to just change the start and end for X in the height map file to shift the file 25mm towards origo?

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by

                  1. Because your X offset is 25.2 and 275+25.2 = 300.2 which is greater than 300.

                  2. It extrapolates the average tilt of the bed.

                  3. Yes.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • GrodanBundefined
                    GrodanB
                    last edited by

                    Ok… Then I understand.

                    Why not truncate? Seems like wasteful of data just for 0.2 mm...

                    Need to check but I'm quite sure it did not use 300 even if G31 x0 y0... Is this not removing the 25.2 offset?

                    As stated in https://www.duet3d.com/forum/thread.php?pid=34951#p34951 the last column is not used… Then in then next I got it probe at X=300 buy using 301...

                    Will check again.

                    Extrapolation, is that using the neighboring measure points or the complete bed?

                    Makes more and more sense now... One day I understand this to...

                    Thanks

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                    • GrodanBundefined
                      GrodanB
                      last edited by

                      Got the dual z motor working.
                      Sag problem of course is still there but wow… What a test print I got, seems like the printer just got to a new level.

                      Get the best coverage of measure points if I clear the probe offset and navigate using the nozzle. And then move the table accordingly manually.

                      That's a minor issues that I now can handle..

                      But suddenly using the LCD to move the z axis 50 mm the bed moved very fast (really scary since I never seen it before) but worked super fine...

                      Wonder why I never seen this before. But thanks for a nice function.

                      So to wrap this up,

                      • if you do not have the IR with surface mounted transmitter/receiver I strongly recommend that.

                      • if you have more than one z axis motor and a driver to use I strongly recommend that to.

                        • An update to the wiki how to set up the z axis where it is clear that most of the z axis setup is copied automatically and that you do not need Z10:10 to set the speed
                      • As recommended at E3D's forum I run the calibration multiple times and four seem like the magic number. Duet report 0.000 deviation and regardless how exact that is I don't expect better than that.

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by

                        The speed at which the jog controls move the bed will be limited to the value you specify in the Z parameter of your M203 command in config.g. So if you are uncomfortable with it moving that fast, you can reduce it.

                        If it is moving faster than before, check that you haven't inadvertently increased the Z steps/mm.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • GrodanBundefined
                          GrodanB
                          last edited by

                          Was just scary since I have not experienced it. Honestly it's super.

                          Yes, it might be a zero that was not there before… But I keep it since it seems like the bed compensation like a fast bed and with the duex it seems like it has no repeatability problems at that speed.

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