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    • Depundefined
      Dep
      last edited by

      No, I still can’t figure it out.

      Yes, the table is really ragged. But what does it matter?

      RepRapFirmware height map file v2 generated at 2019-11-01 19:53, min error -0.157, max error 1.455, mean 0.615, deviation 0.346
      xmin,xmax,ymin,ymax,radius,xspacing,yspacing,xnum,ynum
      450.00,950.00,120.00,620.00,-1.00,50.00,50.00,11,11
        0.311,  0.163,  0.054, -0.041, -0.157, -0.153, -0.096, -0.007,  0.135,  0.285,  0.481
        0.538,  0.388,  0.246,  0.109,  0.003,  0.019,  0.069,  0.128,  0.265,  0.423,  0.625
        0.749,  0.588,  0.436,  0.264,  0.150,  0.147,  0.190,  0.264,  0.378,  0.504,  0.729
        0.988,  0.760,  0.609,  0.402,  0.303,  0.273,  0.265,  0.342,  0.466,  0.623,  0.821
        1.175,  0.966,  0.754,  0.567,  0.426,  0.389,  0.408,  0.439,  0.588,  0.733,  0.941
        1.392,  1.108,  0.892,  0.671,  0.523,  0.485,  0.468,  0.534,  0.659,  0.795,  0.985
        1.455,  1.171,  0.922,  0.739,  0.558,  0.514,  0.530,  0.602,  0.694,  0.816,  1.001
        1.438,  1.153,  0.944,  0.734,  0.558,  0.535,  0.558,  0.613,  0.688,  0.823,  1.000
        1.352,  1.097,  0.919,  0.732,  0.618,  0.532,  0.606,  0.649,  0.783,  0.928,  1.065
        1.211,  1.003,  0.823,  0.625,  0.536,  0.518,  0.587,  0.633,  0.756,  0.955,  1.108
        1.086,  0.891,  0.752,  0.581,  0.519,  0.491,  0.552,  0.658,  0.813,  0.972,  1.133
      

      In the photo there is a fragment of a part that covers several calibration points. Why is this place not aligned?

      Is it possible that the firmware has restrictions on the height of the table when adjusting?

      IMG_1174.jpg
      IMG_1175.jpg
      IMG_1176.jpg

      I changed the calibration settings

      M208 X0 Y-35 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
      M208 X1380 Y1210 Z1500; Set axis maxima
      
      M557 X450:950 Y120:620 S50
      M376 H6
      
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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
        last edited by

        it means that your bed is very uneven. as you have 0.2 differences between probing point (an entire layer) there is only so much that the mesh can compensate for. you will need a lot smaller spacing i would imagine.

        can you post a picture of the mesh.

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        • Depundefined
          Dep
          last edited by

          Do you want to say that mesh calibration cannot compensate for more than 0.2mm?

          2019-11-03_12-47-04.png

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti
            last edited by

            that looks absolutly terrible.

            i am saying that if you have 0.2 between two points the area in between is calculated, so there could be deviations to the real values.
            with a bed as uneven as that it is very likely that that is the case.

            however looking at our printer setup, it could also be a mechanical issue with your x gantry. because of the length it could be sagging and produces this result.

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            • Depundefined
              Dep
              last edited by

              All axes are calibrated and checked. Dimensions of printed part + - 0.2 mm

              OK. The table is very uneven. But for calibration, what does it matter?

              Why doesn't calibration work in this range?

              Is there a limitation?

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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti
                last edited by

                @Dep said in Mesh calibration not working or what am I doing wrong?:

                All axes are calibrated and checked. Dimensions of printed part + - 0.2 mm

                axis sagging has nothing to do with dimension.

                your x axis and y axis are over a meter long. they could bend under their own weight of the beam is not rigid enough.
                that would lead to an image you are seeing, where the sides are higher and the middle is low. i.e the weight in the middle is causing more deflection that on the sides.

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                • Depundefined
                  Dep
                  last edited by

                  Yes, I understand that.

                  But mesh calibration measures this deflection. Why is it not compensated during printing?

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                  • Vetiundefined
                    Veti
                    last edited by

                    @Dep said in Mesh calibration not working or what am I doing wrong?:

                    M557 X500:1000 Y150:600 S25

                    thy with M557 X500:1000 Y150:600 S10

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                    • Depundefined
                      Dep @Veti
                      last edited by

                      @Veti said in Mesh calibration not working or what am I doing wrong?:

                      thy with M557 X500:1000 Y150:600 S10

                      This is unfortunately impossible 😞 The maximum number of points is 121

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                      • Depundefined
                        Dep
                        last edited by

                        But part of the model in the photo falls into several calibration points. Why are they not aligned?

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                        • Vetiundefined
                          Veti
                          last edited by

                          @Dep said in Mesh calibration not working or what am I doing wrong?:

                          The maximum number of points is 121

                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Using_mesh_bed_compensation

                          There is a firmware-dependent limit on the number of 441 probe points allowed.

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                          • Depundefined
                            Dep
                            last edited by

                            I have a 0.8.5 board. And when i try to make more than 121 points, it gives an error.

                            But even with this number of points. They overlap the model. Why is it not calibrated.

                            I think there is some kind of limit on the calibration height.

                            I have spent many days and can not solve this problem.
                            There is no technical possibility to make a flat table on such sizes.

                            I don’t know what to do next. 😞

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                            • Vetiundefined
                              Veti
                              last edited by

                              what firmware version are you using?

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                              • Depundefined
                                Dep
                                last edited by

                                Duet 0.85
                                RepRapFirmware for Duet 1.25RC4 (2019-10-19b1)

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                                • Depundefined
                                  Dep
                                  last edited by

                                  @Veti said in Mesh calibration not working or what am I doing wrong?:

                                  M557 X500:1000 Y150:600 S10

                                  03.11.2019, 14:40:36 M557 X500:1000 Y150:600 S10
                                  Error: M557: bad grid definition: Too many grid points; suggest increase spacing to 47.4mm

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                                  • Vetiundefined
                                    Veti
                                    last edited by

                                    try decreasing the mesh area and see if the result improves, allowing more probing points in a smaller area.

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                                    • Depundefined
                                      Dep
                                      last edited by

                                      I tried to reduce to 20mm. That helped. But now I don’t know, maybe I came across a flat section of the table?

                                      But I need the printer to work on a large table. I don’t understand what the problem is.

                                      Why calibration is not working? There may be some kind of configuration problem.

                                      After all, in theory, for firmware it does not matter how uneven the bed is.

                                      Either there are limitations in the firmware, or maybe the adjustment is not accurate and it is not visible at small values. But it becomes noticeable with a large roughness.

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                                      • Vetiundefined
                                        Veti @Dep
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dep said in Mesh calibration not working or what am I doing wrong?:

                                        I tried to reduce to 20mm. That helped. But now I don’t know, maybe I came across a flat section of the table?

                                        look at the mesh calibration image to check.

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                                        • Depundefined
                                          Dep
                                          last edited by

                                          If you mean to look at the program code, then unfortunately I am not good at programming.

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                                          • Vetiundefined
                                            Veti
                                            last edited by

                                            no the image of the you see after running mesh bed compensation.

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