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    • neetspeedundefined
      neetspeed
      last edited by neetspeed

      Hi
      good i got my duex5 and everything else i continue my project,
      but I have a blockage
      it makes me crazy twice I change the bl touch I configure everything,
      it comes in it goes out, upon ignition then nothing.
      the z burst my 7 inch paneldue,
      pff i have more strength
      I have more than her to conquer to pass to the additional axis u

      salut
      bon jai recu ma duex5 et tout le reste je continu mon projet ,
      mais la jai un bloquage
      ça me rend dingue deux fois je change le bl touch je configure tout ,
      il rentre il sort , a l'alumage puis plus rien .
      le z ma eclater un paneldue 7 pouce ,
      pff j'ai plus de force
      il me reste plus que sa de conpliquer pour paser a l'axe u suplementaire

      config.g

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      • neetspeedundefined
        neetspeed
        last edited by

        Hi friends
        I explain my problem, the bltouch seems to work, it is triggered when the machine is switched on (ignition, up and down)
        tests them it responds when I ask it to go up or down,
        but when I run home,
        xy correctly, but Z rises slightly then descends without ever stopping,
          I manually operate the bltouche change nothing even if the sense of motor is not correct it should stop right?
        I have an error the Z probe was not triggered at the survey

        I don't know what to do I'm lost I keep looking
        Thanks for your help

        config (2).g

        salut les amis
        J'explique mon problème, le bltouch semble fonctionner, il se déclenche lorsque la machine est allumée (allumage, haut et bas)
        les teste, il répond quand je lui demande de monter ou de descendre,
        mais quand je rentre chez moi,
        xy correctement, mais Z monte légèrement puis descend sans jamais s'arrêter,
        J'utilise manuellement le bltouche ne change rien même si le sens du moteur n'est pas correct il faut s'arrêter non?
        J'ai une erreur, la sonde Z n'a pas été déclenchée lors de l'enquête

        Je ne sais pas quoi faire, je suis perdu, je continue de chercher
        Merci de votre aideconfig (2).g

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by

          Post your homeall as well.

          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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          • neetspeedundefined
            neetspeed
            last edited by

            ok merci
            homeall.g

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              Your config and homeall look ok. It sounds like the white signal wire is not making connection. Check your wiring again. Try re-crimping. Check for breaks.

              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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              • neetspeedundefined
                neetspeed
                last edited by

                thank you
                you are a champion
                I had 2 problem, the engine reverse I suspected,
                and malge my tests on the wiring, actually when the chario was moving I had a false contact o white wire

                Merci
                tu es un champion
                J'ai eu 2 problèmes, le moteur inversé je le soupçonnais,
                et malge mes tests sur le câblage, en fait quand le chario se déplaçait j'avais un faux contact o un fil blanc

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Have you seen this page for corexy commissioning?
                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareCoreXYPrinter

                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                  • neetspeedundefined
                    neetspeed
                    last edited by

                    Yes thanks
                    I leaf through them,
                    everything is fine in the X Y movements,
                    I had a problem with Z sa seems to be resolved,
                    I cable everything, I pass the cable chain, included for the U axis carriage
                    and as soon as everything goes well for core xy I pass to the addition of U,
                    I have an additional manipulation to indicate u in markforged mode ??
                    or am I just adding an additional axis?
                    thank you

                    Oui merci
                    Je les feuillette,
                    tout va bien dans les mouvements X Y,
                    J'ai eu un problème avec Z sa semble être résolu,
                    Je câble tout, je passe la chaîne de câbles, incluse pour le chariot de l'axe U
                    et dès que tout se passe bien pour le noyau xy je passe à l'ajout de U,
                    J'ai une manipulation supplémentaire pour indiquer u en mode markforged ??
                    ou est-ce que j'ajoute juste un axe supplémentaire?
                    Merci

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                    • neetspeedundefined
                      neetspeed
                      last edited by

                      hi friends
                      everything seems to work, except the Z bed which is difficult to synchronize I try to manage to separate the driver and automatic level correction,
                      and still no news for the addition of mark forged chario

                      salut les amis
                      tout semble fonctionner, sauf le lit Z qui est difficile à synchroniser j'essaye de réussir à séparer le driver et la correction automatique du niveau,
                      et toujours pas de nouvelles pour l'ajout de marque forgé chario

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Have you seen this?

                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Bed_levelling_using_multiple_independent_Z_motors

                        As for the IDEX markforged kinematics I have no idea.

                        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                        • neetspeedundefined
                          neetspeed
                          last edited by

                          Yes
                          but I have a problem,
                          it tells me motor
                          phase a,
                            phase b,
                          disconect and the descent bed instead
                          to go up
                          c complicated for i find idex markforged ?? I mounted the motor for the carriage and everything
                            the host is missing,
                            I understood that duet supported all the modes
                            slim
                          I hope to find I will have to transform everything into a Cartezienne

                          Oui
                          Mais j'ai un problème,
                          ça me dit moteur
                          phase a,
                          phase b,
                          déconnecter et le lit de descente à la place
                          à monter

                          c compliqué car je trouve idex markforged ?? J'ai monté le moteur pour le chariot et tout
                          l'hôte manque,
                          J'ai compris que le duo supportait tous les modes
                          svelte
                          J'espère trouver que je vais devoir tout transformer en cartezienne

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @neetspeed
                            last edited by

                            @neetspeed said in Rat rig v-core pro COREXYU:

                            it tells me motor
                            phase a,
                              phase b,

                            How fast are you trying to move the motors?
                            Has it always done that, or is that new?
                            How do you have the motors.

                            @neetspeed said in Rat rig v-core pro COREXYU:

                            I understood that duet supported all the modes

                            Anything is possible, but I'm not aware of anyone who has done it yet. Hopefully will have more details soon.

                            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                            • neetspeedundefined
                              neetspeed
                              last edited by neetspeed

                              c good i forgot the jumpers to disconnect the second motor from z
                              but nothing to do e1 goes in the wrong direction

                              c bon j'ai oublié les cavaliers pour déconnecter le deuxième moteur de z
                              mais rien à faire e1 va dans la mauvaise directionut nothing to do e1 goes in the wrong direction

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                              • neetspeedundefined
                                neetspeed
                                last edited by

                                maybe dc42,
                                I noticed that he had mentioned this in a suget in a subject on the net

                                peut-être dc42,
                                J'ai remarqué qu'il avait mentionné cela dans un suget dans un sujet sur le net

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                                • neetspeedundefined
                                  neetspeed
                                  last edited by

                                  for bed correction ç OK g32c ok
                                  I miss details and chario u I just have to configure it becomes complicated

                                  pour la correction du lit ç OK g32c ok
                                  Les détails me manquent et chario je dois juste configurer ça devient compliqué

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                                  • droftartsundefined
                                    droftarts administrators @neetspeed
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                                    @neetspeed If E1 is going the wrong way, change direction with M569 P4 'S' parameter.

                                    For the Markforged kinematics, can you post a diagram of your belt layout? You say that it is CoreXY + Markforge U, is that correct? Or do you have two motors for U and V, like a second CoreXY?

                                    If you are running CoreXYUV, use M669 K8. See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M669_Set_kinematics_type_and_kinematics_parameters

                                    If you are running CoreXY + Markforge U, you have to work out the transformation matrix. This is how one axis moving affects the others. It's also M669, but with additional parameters for X, Y and U. To do this, you need to work out how each axis moves when the others move. X and Y should be the same as a normal CoreXY, but with an additional value for U. Send M669 to see the current matrix; in CoreXY mode, I get (I have added the comments):

                                    Kinematics is CoreXY, matrix:
                                    1.00 1.00 0 ; This how X, Y and Z motors move when there is a positive X move
                                    1.00 -1.00 0 ; This how X, Y and Z motors move when there is a positive Y move
                                    0 0 1.00 ; This how X, Y and Z motors move when there is a positive Z move
                                    

                                    U needs to move when X and Y move. It will probably be something like:

                                    1.00 1.00 0 0 ; This how X, Y, U and Z motors move when there is a positive X move
                                    1.00 -1.00 -1.00 0 ; This how X, Y, U and Z motors move when there is a positive Y move
                                    0 0 1.00 0 ; This how X, Y, U and Z motors move when there is a positive U move
                                    0 0 0 1.00 ; This how X, Y, U and Z motors move when there is a positive Z move
                                    

                                    A positive X move shouldn't move the U axis (even though the X and Y motors move). A positive Y move will make the U axis move positively (but may move negatively, so check), so needs -1 to counteract this. A positive U move shouldn't move X or Y. However, this is just a guess! You have the machine in front of you, so should be able to work this out.

                                    This would give an M669 command like:
                                    M669 X1:1:0:0 Y1:-1:-1:0 U0:0:1:0 Z0:0:0:1
                                    Which would replace the one in your config.g.

                                    Seeing a picture of your belt setup would help, but I think this is close.

                                    Ian

                                    Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                    • neetspeedundefined
                                      neetspeed
                                      last edited by

                                      hi guys
                                      thank you ,
                                      I have exactly this kinematics of belt

                                      1554221330237-corexyu.png

                                      my corexy
                                      m669
                                      kinematics is CoreXY, matrix:
                                      1.00 1.00 0
                                      1.00 -1.00 0
                                      0 0 1.00

                                      my first chario, stop 9.5 mm before the charion U, which has the same dimensions as x in mirror, finally I suppose

                                      and I'm not M669, I have M667 S1

                                      salut les gars
                                      Merci ,
                                      J'ai exactement cette cinématique de ceinture

                                      mon corexy
                                      m669
                                      la cinématique est CoreXY, matrice:
                                      1,00 1,00 0
                                      1,00 -1,00 0
                                      0 0 1,00

                                      mon premier chario, arrêtez-vous à 9,5 mm avant le charion U, qui a les mêmes dimensions que x dans le miroir, enfin je suppose

                                      et je ne suis pas M669, j'ai M667 S1

                                      my print face

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                                      • neetspeedundefined
                                        neetspeed
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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators @droftarts
                                          last edited by dc42

                                          @droftarts said in Rat rig v-core pro COREXYU:

                                          This would give an M669 command like:
                                          M669 X1:1:0:0 Y1:-1:-1:0 U0:0:1:0 Z0:0:0:1
                                          Which would replace the one in your config.g.

                                          That looks correct to me except that the U motor values should come after the Z motor values, not before. If you also put parameter K1 in that command it will be this:

                                          M669 K1 X1:1:0:0 Y1:-1:0:-1 U0:0:0:1 Z0:0:1:0

                                          then it can replace your M667 command.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators @dc42
                                            last edited by

                                            @neetspeed, in case you didn't notice, I just corrected my previous reply.

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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