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    • peridotundefined
      peridot
      last edited by

      For some reason the firmware decided my hot end wasn't heating fast enough, declared a fault, and shut down the hot end heater. But nothing else stopped: the head kept moving and the print started - with a stone-cold hot end. Trying to shove filament through a cold hot end is bad for the printer. This is not a good response to thermal misbehaviour.

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      • Dougal1957undefined
        Dougal1957
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        Anne
        You may need to increase the Timeout for the heating cycles I had that issue some time back?

        It is close to the end of the Config.G file IIRC

        Doug

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        • tomasfundefined
          tomasf
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          Are you sure it tried to extrude? It does continue to move, but I don't think it extrudes anything in that case.

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          • deckingmanundefined
            deckingman
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            The gcode for heater timeout is M570 Snnn where S is the time in seconds. It may or may not be in your config.g. I think the default is 180 seconds (but I could be wrong) and I had to up mine for the Diamond hot end when I had a 12v heater to 240 seconds. So in my case I have M570 S240 in my config.g.

            If you set your slicer to put M109 Snnn (where nnn is the temperature you want the hot end to be) at the start of your gcode files, it will start the tool heating and wait for it to get up to temperature. So if you get a fault condition, it will never reach the target temperature and so will not start printing.

            HTH

            Ian

            Reason for edit - typos

            Ian
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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
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              @peridot:

              For some reason the firmware decided my hot end wasn't heating fast enough, declared a fault, and shut down the hot end heater. But nothing else stopped: the head kept moving and the print started - with a stone-cold hot end. Trying to shove filament through a cold hot end is bad for the printer. This is not a good response to thermal misbehaviour.

              It's already on the firmware change list to stop the print when a heater fault is detected. Meanwhile, cold extrusion prevention will kick in when the temperature has dropped at enough, at 170C AFAIR.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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