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    t0bias
    last edited by 24 Jul 2020, 13:52

    I have wired up 5 Wantai DQ542MA Stepper Motor Drivers to a Duet WiFi with a Duet Expansion Breakout Board attached.

    • The X-Axis Motor is connected to the E2 Motor / Drive 5 Connector on the Expansion Board
    • The Y-Axis Motors are connected to the E3 / Drive 6 and E4 / Drive 7 Connectors on the Expansion Board
    • The Z-Axis Motors are connected to the E5 / Drive 8 and E6 / Drive 9 Connectors on the Expansion Board
    • The First Extruder Motor is connected to the E0 Connector on the Duet WiFi
    • The Second Extruder Motor is connected to the E1 Connector on the Duet WiFi

    I am using the 3.1.1 Firmware on the Duet and am still trying to simply do some raw movements.

    When using G91 to do relative movements and then G1 H1 X10 via DWC, both the X-Axis and the Y-Axis move. The same happenes when I go for G1 H1 Y10 instead.

    Here is my config.g:

    ; General preferences
    G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
    M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
    M550 P"My 3D-Printer" ; set printer name
    M669 K0 ; set cartesian mode
    ; Network
    M552 S1 ; enable network
    M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
    M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
    M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet
    ; Drives
    M569 P0 S1 R0 ; physical drive 0 is disabled (R0)
    M569 P1 S1 R0 ; physical drive 1 is disabled (R0)
    M569 P2 S1 R0 ; physical drive 2 is disabled (R0)
    M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards (E0)
    M569 P4 S1 ; physical drive 4 goes forwards (E1)
    M569 P5 S1 ; physical drive 5 goes forwards (X)
    M569 P6 S1 ; physical drive 6 goes forwards (Y-Left)
    M569 P7 S1 ; physical drive 7 goes forwards (Y-Right)
    M569 P8 S1 ; physical drive 8 goes forwards (Z-Left)
    M569 P9 S1 ; physical drive 9 goes forwards (Z-Right)
    M584 X5 Y6:7 Z8:9 E3:4 ; set drive mapping
    M350 X1 Y1 Z1 E16:16 I0 ; configure microstepping with interpolation off
    M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E420.00:420.00 ; set steps per mm
    M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00:120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
    M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00:1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
    M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00:250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
    M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800:800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
    M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
    ; Axis Limits
    M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
    M208 X284 Y333 Z370 S0 ; set axis maxima
    ; Endstops
    M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
    M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
    M574 Z1 S1 P"zstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Z via pin zstop
    [ skipping the heater, fan and tools sections ]

    I have read some posts that recommend using the T-Parameter on the Drives connected to a Wantai Stepper Motor Drivers like so M569 P6 S1 T6:6:5:0 however I have no Idea where I would get those values from and moreover I don't think there is any relation between the timing settings and the issue of the axis moving at the same time (but I could be completely wrong)..!

    I have no clue why this might happen.. 😕

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      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by 24 Jul 2020, 17:51

      Can you post your entire config.g in case there is something later in the file that may be changing something earlier in the file.

      If you send G92 X100 Y100 and then try to move an axis with the jog controls do they work correctly then?

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        t0bias
        last edited by 26 Jul 2020, 13:18

        Here is my entire config.g:

        ; General preferences
        G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
        M550 P"My 3D-Printer" ; set printer name
        ; Network
        M552 S1 ; enable network
        M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
        M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
        M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet
        ; Drives
        M569 P0 S1 R0 ; physical drive 0 is disabled (R0)
        M569 P1 S1 R0 ; physical drive 1 is disabled (R0)
        M569 P2 S1 R0 ; physical drive 2 is disabled (R0)
        M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards (E0)
        M569 P4 S1 ; physical drive 4 goes forwards (E1)
        M569 P5 S1 R1 ; physical drive 5 goes forwards (X)
        M569 P6 S1 R1 ; physical drive 6 goes forwards (Y-Left)
        M569 P7 S1 R1 ; physical drive 7 goes forwards (Y-Right)
        M569 P8 S1 R1 ; physical drive 8 goes forwards (Z-Left)
        M569 P9 S1 R1 ; physical drive 9 goes forwards (Z-Right)
        M584 X5 Y6:7 Z8:9 E3:4 ; set drive mapping
        M350 X1 Y1 Z1 E16 I0 ; configure microstepping with interpolation off
        M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E420.00 ; set steps per mm
        M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
        M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
        M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
        M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
        ; Axis Limits
        M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
        M208 X284 Y333 Z370 S0 ; set axis maxima
        ; Endstops
        M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
        M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
        M574 Z1 S1 P"zstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Z via pin zstop
        ; Z-Probe
        M558 P2 C"zprobe.in+zprobe.mod" H5 F120 T3000 ; set Z probe type to modulated and the dive height + speeds
        G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
        M557 X15:215 Y15:195 S20 ; define mesh grid
        ; Heaters
        M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
        M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
        M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
        M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
        M143 H0 S145 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 145C
        M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
        M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
        M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
        M308 S2 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin e1temp
        M950 H2 C"e1heat" T2 ; create nozzle heater output on e1heat and map it to sensor 2
        M307 H2 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
        ; Fans
        M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
        M106 P0 S1 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
        M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
        M106 P1 S1 H-1 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
        ; Tools
        M563 P0 S"Main Extruder" D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
        G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
        M563 P1 S"Support Extruder" D1 H2 F1 ; define tool 1
        G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
        G10 P1 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
        ; Custom settings are not defined
        ; Miscellaneous
        M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
        T0 ; select first tool

        I tried your suggestion using G92 X100 Y100, unfortunately still both axis move as before.

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          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by 26 Jul 2020, 18:37

          @t0bias said in Multiple Axis moving at the same time on Cartesian Printer:

          M584 X5 Y6:7 Z8:9 E3:4 ; set drive mapping M350 X1 Y1 Z1 E16 I0 ; configure microstepping with interpolation off

          Are you sure you have the motors plugged into the right drivers and have the right drivers mapped to the right axis?

          Also, probably not a good idea to use 1x microstepping. Use x16 with interpolation enabled (I1)

          Are you sure this is a cartesian printer and not a corexy? Photo?

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            t0bias
            last edited by 27 Jul 2020, 14:28

            If I do use microstepping, the motors connected to the Wantai Drivers move really stuttery..?

            To my understanding this is a cartesian printer, it has separate motors and belts for the x and y axis and threaded rods to move the bed?
            IMG_20200727_151025433.jpg

            This is how the motors are wired (so I don't think they are connected correctly):
            motors.jpg

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              dc42 administrators @t0bias
              last edited by 27 Jul 2020, 17:00

              @t0bias said in Multiple Axis moving at the same time on Cartesian Printer:

              When using G91 to do relative movements and then G1 H1 X10 via DWC, both the X-Axis and the Y-Axis move. The same happenes when I go for G1 H1 Y10 instead.

              Odd, it sounds as if the printer is in CoreXY mode. Please send M669 without parameters and report the response.

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                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by 27 Jul 2020, 18:32

                Have you seen this page on using external stepper drivers?

                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Using_external_stepper_motor_drivers

                Do you have anything in your tool change files? tpre tpost etc

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                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by 27 Jul 2020, 18:33

                  Are you sure you don't have the drivers for the dual Y actually using one Y motor and one X motor?

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                    t0bias
                    last edited by t0bias 30 Jul 2020, 10:42

                    Ok, figured it out, but well, it's totally embarassing.. 😬

                    I misslabeled some of the individual strands connecting the drivers to the extension breakout, basically wiring one of the Y-Motors Pulse pins to the X-Motors Enable pins.

                    I still don't quite understand, why this would result in such erratic/arbitrary moves, but hey - at least it works now!

                    Sorry for the bummer!

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