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    • Jackalundefined
      Jackal
      last edited by

      Just installed beta 10, seems to be having a problem when showing the heightmap.
      After calibration, the heightmap overlay appears, but it's empty
      If I choose Show Mesh Grid Heightmap under Auto Delta Calibration the browser won't response and needs to restart.
      Now sure if it's the problem with RRF or DWC 1.17+1.

      edit: it seems to print normally, will look into it later and provide the config and bed files for investigation

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
        last edited by

        @Jackal:

        Just installed beta 10, seems to be having a problem when showing the heightmap.
        After calibration, the heightmap overlay appears, but it's empty
        If I choose Show Mesh Grid Heightmap under Auto Delta Calibration the browser won't response and needs to restart.
        Now sure if it's the problem with RRF or DWC 1.17+1.

        edit: it seems to print normally, will look into it later and provide the config and bed files for investigation

        No need to look into it. I forgot to warn chrishamm about the change to the height map file to support different X and Y spacings. We'll have to wait for him to do a DWC 1.17+2 release.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
          last edited by

          @Jackal:

          @fcwilt:

          Under what circumstances would you want the probe to be deployed/retracted with each G30/G29 command?

          Thanks for the reply.

          Frederick

          I believe it is to avoid the probe not being deployed when executing G30/G29 as a single command
          If you are doing bed compensation with multiple G30, you should use M401 M402

          That's right. Several people complained that G29 didn't deploy the probe automatically.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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          • Jackalundefined
            Jackal
            last edited by

            Thanks David for the quick response

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
              last edited by

              I have just released DuetEthernetFirmware1.19beta10+1. The primary reason for this release is that on some Duet Ethernet boards, it was not possible to flash new firmware using the web interface or M997 when a recent 1.19beta firmware version was installed. AFAIK this only affected the Duet Ethernet, so I have not released new binaries for the other Duets.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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              • DjDemonDundefined
                DjDemonD
                last edited by

                Lesson learned. 🙂

                @minim:

                @DjDemonD:

                Fixed thank you. I did have deployprobe and retractprobe macros.

                However since we all know few if anyone reads the release notes, maybe that one could be in the original post above since it will affect almost everyone. Just saying realpolitik and all that.

                I'd agreed for a stable release but I think most people beta testing actually reads the release notes. I do.

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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt
                  last edited by

                  @Jackal:

                  I believe it is to avoid the probe not being deployed when executing G30/G29 as a single command
                  If you are doing bed compensation with multiple G30, you should use M401 M402

                  Thanks to you and dc42 for the replies.

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • Jackalundefined
                    Jackal
                    last edited by

                    I just tried tuning the heaters, my E3D V6 with 30W heater got this result:
                    Heater 3 model: gain 454.8, time constant 203.3, dead time 5.0, max PWM 1.00, mode: PID
                    Computed PID parameters for setpoint change: P15.9, I0.078, D55.9
                    Computed PID parameters for load change: P15.9, I1.103, D55.9

                    pre-beta 10 result:
                    M307 H3 A465.8 C207.5 D7.0 S1.00 B0

                    However it failed to tune my heat bed on first run:
                    Auto tune of heater 0 failed due to bad curve fit (G=59.2, tc=65.8, td=0.0)

                    one second run it got
                    Heater 0 model: gain 53.4, time constant 52.2, dead time 1.0, max PWM 1.00, mode: PID
                    Computed PID parameters for setpoint change: P177.6, I3.406, D122.1
                    Computed PID parameters for load change: P177.6, I58.798, D122.1


                    The 2 blue peaks are from the heat bed PID tuning, look similar to me
                    The yellow peak is the heater after new PID tuning, look AMAZING

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                    • larsundefined
                      lars
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                      @dc42:

                      Lars, thanks for trying the leadscrew adjustment. To help me diagnose this, please do the following:

                      1. Create a copy of bed.g as a macro. In that macro, replace S3 on the last G30 command by S-1.

                      2. First run the macro, then G31. Repeat until the corrections are out of range. Post the output.

                      I take it you mean G32 not G31…

                      20:40:32 M98 P0:/macros/4 - Leveling Check Probe
                      Bed probe heights: -0.663 -0.068 -0.086, mean -0.272, deviation from mean 0.276
                      20:39:49 G32
                      Error: some computed corrections exceed configured limit of 0.50mm: -0.010 0.012 0.836
                      20:37:26 M98 P0:/macros/4 - Leveling Check Probe
                      Bed probe heights: -0.665 -0.068 -0.088, mean -0.273, deviation from mean 0.277
                      20:36:37 G32
                      Leadscrew adjustments made: -0.229 0.135 0.409, points used 3, deviation before 0.197 after 0.000
                      20:35:37 M98 P0:/macros/4 - Leveling Check Probe
                      Bed probe heights: -0.287 0.152 0.078, mean -0.019, deviation from mean 0.192
                      
                      

                      Front left lead screw (-60,-10) is connected to Z (drive 2)
                      Front right lead screw (560,-10) is connected to Y (drive 1)
                      Back centre lead screw (250,560) is connected to X (Drive 0)

                      Macro "4 - Leveling Check Probe":

                      T0
                      M401
                      G30 P0 X40 Y40 Z-99999      ; probe near a leadscrew
                      G30 P1 X250 Y460 Z-99999    ; probe near a leadscrew
                      G30 P2 X460 Y40 Z-99999 S-1  ; probe near a leadscrew and calibrate 3 motors
                      M402
                      G90
                      G1 X250 Y250
                      T-1
                      
                      ```bed.g
                      

                      T0
                      M401
                      G30 P0 X40 Y40 Z-99999 ; probe near a leadscrew
                      G30 P1 X250 Y460 Z-99999 ; probe near a leadscrew
                      G30 P2 X460 Y40 Z-99999 S3 ; probe near a leadscrew and calibrate 3 motors
                      M402
                      G90
                      G1 X250 Y250
                      T-1

                      M584 Y5 X7 U8 V6 E3:4 Z0:1:2 ; Set up steppers for x, y, u, v, z and e, use P4 once it works to hide V
                      M671 X250:560:-60 Y560:-10:-10 S0.5 ; Set up lead screw positions for bed leveling

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by

                        Thanks Lars, that gives me something to look at. You are probing close to leadscrews 2,0,1 in that order, so we would expect the corrections to be close to the height errors for points 1,2,0 in that order. They are:

                        Height errors in order 1,2,0: 0.152 0.078 -0.287
                        Adjustments: -0.229 0.135 0.409

                        So the corrections look way out. I'll check and simulate the maths.

                        Which variety of Duet do you have?

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                        • larsundefined
                          lars
                          last edited by

                          @dc42:

                          Thanks Lars, that gives me something to look at. You are probing close to leadscrews 2,0,1 in that order, so we would expect the corrections to be close to the height errors for points 1,2,0 in that order. They are:

                          Height errors in order 1,2,0: 0.152 0.078 -0.287
                          Adjustments: -0.229 0.135 0.409

                          So the corrections look way out. I'll check and simulate the maths.

                          Which variety of Duet do you have?

                          Duet WiFi 1.0 + DueX5

                          @dc42:

                          Hi lars, is the speed problem still present in beta10? Please respond in the thread on beta10 if is is.

                          I do believe I know what caused the speed problem. In cura (2.6.2) there is a setting of max Z speed in mm/s. This was for some unknown reason set to 5mm/s for extruder 2. This translates a M203 Z5 (not at the start of the print but after first switch to t1) but should have been generated to M203 Z300 as on the duet the M203 command max federate is in mm/min.

                          If you stop the print you still got this federate when starting a new print. It might need to drop 10mm in Z with a max speed of 5mm/min at the start of the print… This should be easily solved by setting this parameter to 0 in cura, it will then not issue any M203 …

                          Would it make sense to revert max speed (and other configuration settings) to the original configuration after printing from file is done/stopped?

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                          • Yonkimanundefined
                            Yonkiman
                            last edited by

                            I think I found a bug in 1.19beta10 with my delta.

                            config.g contains:

                            M665 L265.000 R109.801 H289.779 B105.0 X-0.308 Y-0.499 Z0.000
                            M666 X0.281 Y-0.325 Z0.045 A0.00 B0.00
                            

                            After a reboot, [c]M665[/c] returns the above parameters, but [c]M666[/c] returns:

                            Endstop adjustments X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00, tilt X0.00% Y0.00%
                            ```and the bed height is incorrect when I try to print. Manually entering [c]M666 X0.281 Y-0.325 Z0.045 A0.00 B0.00[/c] after a reboot sets it correctly and the bed height is corrected when I go to print.
                            
                            Which reminds me… I'm curious what "good" numbers for endstop correction, tilt, and tower position correction are. I'd like some idea where my printer is on the range between perfect and "you really ought to fix that"...
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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              Do you have a config-override.g file, and a M501 command near the end of config.g?

                              Those numbers look good to me.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators
                                last edited by

                                Lars, I found the problem: I missed a minus sign when transposing a formula from Maxima to the source code. So in the 3 leadscrews case it was computing the second leadscrew correction with the wrong sign.

                                Please try 1.19beta10+2 which I have just released.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                • DjDemonDundefined
                                  DjDemonD
                                  last edited by

                                  Heater tuning
                                  Old version 1.18.1
                                  M307 H0 A311.7 C649.8 D3.1 S1.00 B0
                                  M307 H1 A423.4 C203.6 D5.1 S1.00 B0
                                  1.19 Beta 10
                                  M307 H0 A240.2 C387.9 D1.1 S1.00 B0
                                  M307 H1 A469.9 C253.0 D4.8 S1.00 B0

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                                  www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
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                                  • W3DRKundefined
                                    W3DRK
                                    last edited by

                                    Can this new independent Z motor leveling be used for dual Z Cartesian printers like the Prusa, OrdBot, clones, etc, or is this a Delta only feature? Seems like it could be used to automatically get the X-axis of the bed mechanically leveled, only requiring the Z motors to track Y-axis movement…

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                                    • Yonkimanundefined
                                      Yonkiman
                                      last edited by

                                      @dc42:

                                      Do you have a config-override.g file, and a M501 command near the end of config.g?

                                      No. I took the post-calibration M665 and M666 numbers from config-override.g, put them in config.g, and deleted config-override.g. No M501 command at the end of config.g. (I tried the M501 / config-override.g methodology in the past but ultimately prefer to have it all in config.g).

                                      Those numbers look good to me.

                                      Good to hear!

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                                      • larsundefined
                                        lars
                                        last edited by

                                        @dc42:

                                        Lars, I found the problem: I missed a minus sign when transposing a formula from Maxima to the source code. So in the 3 leadscrews case it was computing the second leadscrew correction with the wrong sign.

                                        Please try 1.19beta10+2 which I have just released.

                                        Works now!

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                                        • Yonkimanundefined
                                          Yonkiman
                                          last edited by

                                          I have another oddity to report with 1.19beta10:

                                          Sometimes when a (successful) print ends, I get a "Can't delete file 0:/sys/resurrect.g" error. It's not surprising it can't delete it (because I don't have a resurrect.g file), but I never saw that error until recently (I'm pretty sure coincident with going from beta8 to beta10). I also don't know where the [c]G10 P1 S0[/c] came from - it's not in my gcode, and the only [c]G10[/c]s I have in my Duet config files are [c]G10 P0 R0 S0[/c] and [c]G10 P1 R0 S0[/c] in my config.g file when I set up my tools. Here's the console output from a print I ran last night:

                                          11:12:00 PM	G10 P1 S0
                                          		Can't delete file 0:/sys/resurrect.g
                                          		Done printing file
                                          11:11:56 PM	Can't delete file 0:/sys/resurrect.g
                                          		Done printing file
                                          

                                          Here are the last lines of gcode from that print:```
                                          G1 X0.053 Y9.146 F540
                                          G1 E-8.0000 F6000
                                          ; layer end
                                          T0 ; Select Extruder 0 if not already selected
                                          G90 ; Switch to absolute mode
                                          G1 X0 Y0 Z250 E-10 F6000 ; Retract filament and raise printhead
                                          M104 S0 ; Turn off heater
                                          M84 S10 ; turn off motors after 10 seconds

                                          BTW, do you prefer feedback like this in this forum or as an issue in github?
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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators
                                            last edited by

                                            Thanks, Yonkiman. I prefer issues reported here, especially for betas.

                                            Regarding G1 P1 S0, do you have a stop.g file, and if so, is it in that?

                                            I'll suppress the "Can't delete" message in the next beta.

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