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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator @didi767
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      @didi767 said in [HELP] Ender 3 Pro + Duet WiFi 2:

      the 0,0 should be at the "tool position"? (sorry for the ignorant question). if it is, yes. it shows 0,0 when homing X and Y.

      Yes, tool position. So 0,0 has the nozzle at the front left corner of the bed?

      @didi767 said in [HELP] Ender 3 Pro + Duet WiFi 2:

      oh. and the Y+ goes to the front, is that okay? you mentioned it supposed to go back

      Are you saying that the bed moves forward? or the nozzle moves forward on the bed (because the bed is sliding back).

      Cartesian-coordinate-system.png

      If this image shows your bed, the 0,0 would be the front left corner of the end and the printable area would be in the green area (2,3).

      @didi767 said in [HELP] Ender 3 Pro + Duet WiFi 2:

      I can't home Z still since I see the bltouch is "in the air" but the nozzle looks right about the corner of the bed

      Even with your homeall changed to have X150 Y150? That should cause the nozzle to be roughly positioned in the center of your bed.

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      • didi767undefined
        didi767 @Phaedrux
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        @Phaedrux
        Yes, the position is 0,0 and the nozzle is at the corner (front left).
        and Yes, the bed moves forward when I'm tapping on +Y (so nozzle is basically moving/positioning backward.
        and I changed the homeall with: G1 X150 Y150 F6000.
        and you're right, I didn't understand at first to tap the homeall. I just went manual to each axis. now that I tapped the homeall it went to the center.. well.. not really the center when I look straight from above (seems like (1,2) on the graph you posted, a bit to the back of the center point). so I should only use homeall once restarting the machine before print?

        I'm trying to print the level test and the motors moves pretty slow, the Z especially (super slow!) is that normal? I remember with stock it was pretty fast

        even the extruder is barely working.. it can't extrude

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        • didi767undefined
          didi767
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          So.. I increased the values:
          M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E741.00 ; set steps per mm
          the E value seemed a bit off (but i saw this guy on YouTube that set this value).
          so now it seems like it's moving faster but the extruder still doesn't work properly.
          any specific values I need to set for the Ender configuration?

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @didi767
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            @didi767 said in [HELP] Ender 3 Pro + Duet WiFi 2:

            Yes, the position is 0,0 and the nozzle is at the corner (front left).
            and Yes, the bed moves forward when I'm tapping on +Y (so nozzle is basically moving/positioning backward.

            Ok that sounds correct.

            @didi767 said in [HELP] Ender 3 Pro + Duet WiFi 2:

            I changed the homeall with: G1 X150 Y150 F6000.

            You can adjust the 150 150 values to move the probe closer to the actual center. The important thing was getting it to actually probe on the bed. You can make the same change to the homez file so that it works when you home the Z axis by itself.

            Your Z axis is slow because the speed limit set in config.g is very low.

            M566 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z24.00 E300.00              ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
            M203 X9000.00 Y9000.00 Z180.00 E6000.00            ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
            M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z100.00 E5000.00              ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
            

            M203 Z180 is very slow. Try changing these values for Z

            M566 Z60
            M203 Z600
            M201 Z200

            As for your extruder steps per mm, it's best to calibrate that using a technique like this: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+4:+Calibration/40

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            • didi767undefined
              didi767 @Phaedrux
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              @Phaedrux
              I'll do those changes soon and update.
              one question about the leveling procedure, so when I homeall and it does the Z axis I can see that the bltouch stops the motor, but how does it know if the bed is leveled? isn't it supposed to take samples from different locations on the bed to do that?

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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti
                last edited by

                homeall does not do bed leveling.

                G29 does mesh bed leveling

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                  See here: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Using_mesh_bed_compensation

                  The ender 3 doesn't have any way to "level" the bed other than the adjustment screws on the bottom of the bed. So getting those leveled to begin with is important. Mesh compensation takes probe readings from many points on the surface of the bed and creates a height map to automatically adjust the Z height during a print to keep the nozzle the same distance from the bed.

                  An important part of the z probe setup is getting the offsets correct. See here: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe

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                  • didi767undefined
                    didi767 @Phaedrux
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                    @Phaedrux
                    Changed the Z speeds and it looks much better.
                    Regarding the extruder, I tried to do the configuration using the guide but my extruder doesn't extrude anything 😕 if I look carefully at the motor it seems like the wheels/brass things are turning a bit and then turning back to the same spot as before and the filament is not moving anywhere. any suggestions on that?

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                      Is the hotend heater on and at temp?

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                      • didi767undefined
                        didi767 @Phaedrux
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                        @Phaedrux
                        It was the cable... I switch with the X to check and the motor works.
                        I ordered an extra cable, in the meantime I'll calibrate the extruder and follow the guide for the bedmesh and update later.

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                        • didi767undefined
                          didi767
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                          Hey guys,

                          so I managed to calibrate the extruder and to create the mesh grid successfully. I can finally see progress with this upgrade (thanks to you!). I'm still waiting for the cables to arrive and finally close the case with all the wiring appropriately.
                          Is there anything specific that I should add to the configurations?
                          I've noticed that I can set the amount of amps to each motor, should I modify this or just leave it as 800 800 900?

                          thanks!
                          Didi

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                          • Vetiundefined
                            Veti @didi767
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                            @didi767

                            set them to 75% of the rated current.

                            i think the ender motors are 1A so 800 is close enough.
                            touch them during a print to see if they dont get to hot.

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
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                              800 sounds fine for the Ender, though some people find the motors noisy, so lowering the current a bit might help, though you're limited to 100ma steps and if you go too low you risk heavy axis like Y skipping steps. I wouldn't go lower than 600.

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                              • didi767undefined
                                didi767
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                                So I just printed a bed level print and it looks great. one thing that bothers me is that whenever I start the print it go into slow motion mode (all motors becomes extremely slow, but on the initial homing everything was fine, just when I sent the print). after the print I wanted to see if this continues and it is, every movement (no matter which axis) is slow. did the print itself had like instructions to move slow or something? I checked the config file and it looks okay.

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator @didi767
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                                  @didi767 I bet you're using cura and the start gcode section has some commands that override your speed settings. Check there first.

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                                  • didi767undefined
                                    didi767
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                                    Hey guys,

                                    I don't see that my part cooling fan is turned on at any stage.
                                    I tried to manually send a command to start it but nothing. I've connected it to the FAN0 on the board and it appears like this in the config:

                                    ; Fans
                                    M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                                    M106 P0 C"Part Cooling" S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                    M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                                    M106 P1 C"Hot End" S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                    M950 F2 C"fan2" Q500 ; create fan 2 on pin fan2 and set its frequency
                                    M106 P2 S1 H1:0 T45 ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                                      What command did you send to start it?

                                      M106 P0 S1 should do it.

                                      Does the fan itself work if you connect it to the always on fan port?

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                                      • didi767undefined
                                        didi767 @Phaedrux
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                                        @Phaedrux I tried that command, the problem was that the fan was faulty (maybe I burned it or something :))
                                        I replaced it and it works now. but I have to manually turn it on when printing, doesn't it supposed to start automatically whenever I print?
                                        trying the new configuration now with first print, looking good so far 🙂

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator @didi767
                                          last edited by

                                          @didi767 said in [HELP] Ender 3 Pro + Duet WiFi 2:

                                          doesn't it supposed to start automatically whenever I print?

                                          Can you post your gcode file so we can see if the slicer is trying to turn the fan on? Or can you search it for an M106 S command?

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                                          • didi767undefined
                                            didi767 @Phaedrux
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                                            @Phaedrux So I guess it was something in the gcode. it did start from time to time. so the fan is okay.
                                            I wanted to ask something else, so few prints have failed, at the end, and then i noticed that my first few layers are not really sticking to the bed so well, so I changed the bed to glass and did the bed leveling and changed the btlouch offset (which is 1.250, is that okay?) and still it seems like it doesn't really stick well, should I increase the bed temp? (currently it's 60).
                                            I manually level the bed with the piece of paper method and then run the mesh compensation (also when I'm loading it, it gives me a warning message: "Warning: the height map was loaded when the current Z=0 datum was not determined probing. This may result in a height offset."

                                            so unfortunately no successful prints so far, hopefully you can help out. Thanks!!

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