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    • humbleJoeundefined
      humbleJoe
      last edited by

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      Hi all,

      I have recently repaired my duet 2 ethernet board after my U3 Chip died (because of a loose cable which I also fixed). After the repair the board and 5v (3.3v) looked fine again and i could start the printer without any issues. All the functions look fine for me as well (Homeing, heating up the tool heater,...) howerver for some reason i am now missing the bed heater in my dashboard.
      Does anyone know why this error now appeared? I have not changed anything on my firmware so it is kind of strange that this now happend.

      Duet Web Control 3.2.2
      Duet Ethernet 1.02
      RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 2.03 (2019-06-13b2)

      config g:
      ; Heaters
      M305 P0 T100000 B4092 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
      M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
      M305 P1 T100000 B4092 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
      M143 H1 S275 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 275C

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @humbleJoe
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        @humblejoe

        Do you have a M140 command somewhere?

        Your firmware is rather old and is out-of-sync with the Duet Web Control version. You may want to think about updating both to 3.3.

        Frederick

        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • humbleJoeundefined
          humbleJoe @fcwilt
          last edited by

          @fcwilt
          I dont have M140 command in config.g, config-override.g or bed.g. I have not checked the rest but i guess it should be in config.g.
          What exactly do I need to add, just M140? I guess there are some parameters as well ^^

          And I still dont get why this was not necessary bevore 😮

          To the out of sync firmware I must admit that I am a very lazy person and I realy like the fact that for the last year I could always just use my printer without any changes and never had to adjust anything (apart from retensioning the belts). The best printer is the one that works 😛 .
          But I will look up the changelog and see if there are important changes and update the firmware then.

          Greetings
          Joe

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @humbleJoe
            last edited by

            @humblejoe

            Here is how my heated bed configuration looks from my config.g file which is for version3 firmware:

            M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138             ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor
            M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 Q10                                  ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
            M307 H0 B0 S1.00 A107.3 C136.0 D2.8 V12.0                  ; values A, C, D, V determined by running heater tuning
            M140 P0 H0                                                 ; map heated bed to heater 0
            M143 H0 S115                                               ; set temperature limit for heater 0
            

            The M308 and the M950 don't apply to you since you are running v2 firmware. M950 is not used at all in v2 and M308 in v3 is M305 in v2.

            The important part is the M140 which says that heater 0 (the H0 parameter) is the heater for the bed (the P0 parameter)

            I believe that even in v2 firmware the M140 must come before the M143 as is done here.

            Frederick

            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • humbleJoeundefined
              humbleJoe @fcwilt
              last edited by humbleJoe

              @fcwilt

              I have tested the M140 but it did not change my issue. So I desided to update to latest stable FW 3.3 and downloaded the Duet2and3Firmware-3.3.zip from there. I used the System/Upload System files and after the upload and decompression it installed the updates without any error mssg. However in diagn. it still shows me that my firmware is 2.03 from 2019.
              Is it not possible to upgrade the reprap firmware like this? I thought that this is the recommended way to do an update.

              But at least it looks like a "Bed-Heater" is now recognized at least. However there are some things wrong I guess.

              bca736c2-c597-41a1-a629-e72e288ed751-grafik.png

              I will check first if there is realy no connection on the Bed temp sensor,... but does anyone know why there is now shown 8 Heaters in chart?

              Here is the feedback to M122:

              M122
              === Diagnostics ===
              RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.03 running on Duet Ethernet 1.02 or later
              Board ID: 08DGM-917NK-F2MSW-6JKF2-3SN6K-1G6NG
              Used output buffers: 1 of 24 (6 max)
              === RTOS ===
              Static ram: 25680
              Dynamic ram: 93324 of which 0 recycled
              Exception stack ram used: 388
              Never used ram: 11680
              Tasks: NETWORK(ready,652) HEAT(blocked,1236) MAIN(running,3756) IDLE(ready,160)
              Owned mutexes:
              === Platform ===
              Last reset 00:06:07 ago, cause: software
              Last software reset at 2021-10-25 19:56, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 11836 bytes (slot 0)
              Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
              Error status: 0
              Free file entries: 10
              SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
              SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
              MCU temperature: min 24.4, current 25.2, max 25.4
              Supply voltage: min 24.0, current 24.1, max 24.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
              Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max 0/214
              Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max 0/180
              Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
              Date/time: 2021-10-25 20:02:11
              Cache data hit count 863568591
              Slowest loop: 4.82ms; fastest: 0.07ms
              I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
              === Move ===
              Hiccups: 0, FreeDm: 169, MinFreeDm: 167, MaxWait: 10059ms
              Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
              === DDARing ===
              Scheduled moves: 7, completed moves: 7, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
              === Heat ===
              Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
              Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
              === GCodes ===
              Segments left: 0
              Stack records: 2 allocated, 0 in use
              Movement lock held by null
              http is idle in state(s) 0
              telnet is idle in state(s) 0
              file is idle in state(s) 0
              serial is idle in state(s) 0
              aux is idle in state(s) 0
              daemon is idle in state(s) 0
              queue is idle in state(s) 0
              autopause is idle in state(s) 0
              Code queue is empty.
              === Network ===
              Slowest loop: 5.11ms; fastest: 0.02ms
              Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
              HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
              Interface state 5, link 100Mbps full duplex

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @humbleJoe
                last edited by

                @humblejoe

                To get to ver 3.3 from ver 2.x you have to make a brief "stop" along the way at ver 3.0.

                It mentions the details here:

                Installing and Updating Firmware

                Frederick

                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                • humbleJoeundefined
                  humbleJoe @fcwilt
                  last edited by

                  @fcwilt
                  Thanks for the info - i will try.

                  The Heater was realy missing because I was to dumb to connect the thermistor correctly. It now shows the temp again and works with some ugly additions.

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                  This might had been the issue in first place, that he coudnt measure any resistance at the bed thermistor.

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                  • humbleJoeundefined
                    humbleJoe @humbleJoe
                    last edited by

                    Update:

                    Firmware Update was successful. I had to adjust some commands (RRF Config tool helped me a lot there).
                    And after correcting the connection error at the bed thermistor everything works now as intended and the charts are now looking fine as well. Thanks for the support @fcwilt !

                    Have a nice day 🙂

                    Sincerely
                    Joe

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                    • humbleJoeundefined
                      humbleJoe @fcwilt
                      last edited by humbleJoe

                      @fcwilt

                      One more thing - i was happy too early:
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                      I have now the issue that my bed "heats up to slowly".
                      As fas as my multimeter tells me the 100k @ R25 are correct.

                      ; General preferences
                      G90                                                ; send absolute coordinates...
                      M83                                                ; ...but relative extruder moves
                      M550 P""                             ; set printer name
                      M918 P1 E4 F2000000                                ; configure direct-connect display
                      
                      ; Network
                      M551 P""                               ; set password
                      M552 P192.168.0.254 S1                             ; enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
                      M586 P0 S1                                         ; enable HTTP
                      M586 P1 S0                                         ; disable FTP
                      M586 P2 S0                                         ; disable Telnet
                      
                      ; Drives
                      M569 P0 S1                                         ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                      M569 P1 S0                                         ; physical drive 1 goes backwards
                      M569 P2 S0                                         ; physical drive 2 goes backwards
                      M569 P3 S1                                         ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                      M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3                                   ; set drive mapping
                      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                            ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                      M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E136.45                  ; set steps per mm
                      M566 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z24.00 E300.00              ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                      M203 X9000.00 Y9000.00 Z180.00 E6000.00            ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                      M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z100.00 E5000.00              ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                      M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E1000 I50                      ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                      M84 S30                                            ; Set idle timeout
                      
                      ; Axis Limits
                      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                                   ; set axis minima
                      M208 X235 Y235 Z260 S0                             ; set axis maxima
                      
                      ; Endstops
                      M574 X1 S1 P"xstop"                            ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
                      M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop"                            ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
                      M574 Z1 S3                                     ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on Z
                      
                      ; Z-Probe
                      M950 S0 C"exp.heater3"                         ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                      M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000            ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                      G31 P500 X42.5 Y-8 Z2.4                            ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                      M557 X50:200 Y50:200 S20                       ; define mesh grid
                      
                      
                      ; Heaters
                      
                      M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4400 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                      M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                          ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                      M307 H0 B0 S1.00                               ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                      M140 H0                                        ; map heated bed to heater 0
                      M143 H0 S120                                   ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                      M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4400  ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                      M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                           ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                      M307 H1 B0 S1.00                               ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                      M143 H1 S280                                   ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                      
                      ;M143 H0 S115                                               ; set temperature limit for heater 0
                      ;M305 P0 T100000 B4092 R4700                        ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                      ;M143 H0 S120                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                      M305 P1 T100000 B4092 R4700                        ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                      M143 H1 S275                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 275C
                      
                      ; BLTouch - Heaters
                      M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1 				   ; Disable the 7th Heater to free up PWM channel 5 on the Duex board.
                      
                      ; Fans
                      M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1                             ; set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                      M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45                          ; set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                      M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1:0 T45                        ; set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                      
                      ; Tools
                      M563 P0 D0 H1 F0                                   ; define tool 0
                      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                      G10 P0 R0 S0                                       ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                      
                      ; Custom settings are not defined
                      T0
                      
                      ; Miscellaneous
                      M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
                      
                      
                      

                      What am I missing / do i need to correct with the new FW

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @humbleJoe
                        last edited by

                        I have added some comments in relation to parts of your config.g file - this is NOT your entire file - you should edit your existing file.

                        ; if you put the M92 before M350 and the values in M92 are correct for X16 microstepping
                        ; any changes you may make later to M350 will internally change the steps-per-mm as needed
                        
                        M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E136.45                  ; set steps per mm
                        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                            ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                        
                        ; there is a short form for M208 you can use - the number before the : is the min, after the max
                        
                        ; Axis Limits
                        M208 X0:235 Y0:235 Z0:260
                         
                        ; are you really using stall-detection on your Z axis?
                        
                        ; Endstops
                        M574 Z1 S3                                     ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on Z
                         
                         
                        ; Heaters
                        
                        ; it doesn't look like you have run heater tuning (M303) as the M307 commands are missing the parameters the tuning would tell you to add
                         
                        M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4400 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                        M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                          ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                        M307 H0 B0 S1.00                               ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                        M140 H0                                        ; map heated bed to heater 0
                        M143 H0 S120                                   ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                        M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4400  ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                        M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                           ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                        M307 H1 B0 S1.00                               ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                        M143 H1 S280                                   ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                        
                        ; M305 is used with v2 firmware - why is it here?
                         
                        M305 P1 T100000 B4092 R4700                        ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                        M143 H1 S275                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 275C
                        
                        ; M307 like this is used with v2 firmware - remove it
                         
                        ; BLTouch - Heaters
                        M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1 				   ; Disable the 7th Heater to free up PWM channel 5 on the Duex board.
                        
                        ; you have fan 1 for heater 1 - you have fan 2 for heater 1 and 0 - is that correct?
                         
                        ; Fans
                        M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45                          ; set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                        M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1:0 T45                        ; set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • Gixxerfastundefined
                          Gixxerfast @humbleJoe
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                          @humblejoe I guess you have to do a PID calibration https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Tuning_the_heater_temperature_control

                          I had the same before I knew I had to do one 🙂

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