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    • greecherundefined
      greecher
      last edited by

      So i'm finishing up the wiring on my corexy, and all is going well except when I tried to run the dual Z motor setup, as only 1 motor will turn at a time, with the other one stalling. I can start the other turning by giving a little assist, but then the other one stalls, only one will turn, the other just stalls. I have validate that they turn in the same direction (still may need to reverse them later with S1/S0 motor setup). I have tried running the motor current up from the default 800ma up to 1.6amp, with the thinking being maybe not enough current, but this didn't help. I also did a full pin swapping around, partially to make them turn in the same direction, but also to see if it had an effect on getting both to turn. As a reference, X/Y work with no issue (haven't hooked up E0 yet).

      Motor Specs:
      Step angle: 1.8 deg (200 steps per rev)
      Number of phase: 2
      Rotor inertia: 57gcm^2
      Mass: 0.3kg
      Resolution in full step mode: 0.04mm per step
      Rated Voltage: 12V
      Rated Current: 0.48A
      Resistance per phase: 25Ohm +/- 10%
      Inductance per phase: 50mH +/- 20%
      Holding torque: 420mN
      m
      Thrust (full step mode): 8kg (at 300pps)

      my config.g (just top portion):
      ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.17)
      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Fri Sep 22 2017 16:10:34 GMT-0700 (US Mountain Standard Time)

      ; General preferences
      M111 S0 ; Debugging off
      G21 ; Work in millimetres
      G90 ; Send absolute coordinates…
      M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
      M555 P2 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like marlin output

      M667 S1 ; Select CoreXY mode
      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
      M208 X290 Y300 Z350 S0 ; Set axis maxima

      ; Endstops
      M574 Z0 S0 ; Define active low and unused microswitches
      M574 X1 Y1 S1 ; Define active high microswitches
      M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1
      M558 P5 X0 Y0 Z1 H5 F100 T2000 ; Set Z probe type to unmodulated, the axes for which it is used and the probe + travel speeds
      G31 P600 X0 Y0 Z2.5 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
      M557 X15:185 Y15:205 S20 ; Define mesh grid

      ; Drives
      M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
      M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
      M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
      M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
      M92 X80 Y80 Z4000 E420 ; Set steps per mm
      M566 X900 Y900 Z12 E120 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X30000 Y30000 Z180 E1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X2000 Y2000 Z250 E250 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
        last edited by

        Those motors are a poor choice for a 3D printer. Instead of 12V 0.4A rating you should choose more like 2 to 3V at 1.5 to 2A. See the wiki page on choosing stepper motors.

        You may be able to get them working reasonably at low speeds by connecting the two Z motors in parallel instead of in series, or by connecting them to separate motor driver outputs.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • greecherundefined
          greecher
          last edited by

          Would that change for a 24v setup? I did get them working on z/e1, but may look at better ones anyways.

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
            last edited by

            They will be much better on 24V than on 12V, but you may still be unable to reach high speeds. See https://duet3d.com/wiki/Choosing_stepper_motors#How_to_work_out_the_power_supply_voltage_you_need.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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