Help me! Pancake Steppers don't work....
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Good morning, I've just finished mounting my new Bondtech X2, but the two original Bondtech pancake don't work....they make this noise, they just vibrate but they don't work....the connections are correct....what's wrong? Mother board Duet 2WiFi. Tried also with original E3D Pancake and do the same. "Normal" NEMA17 works great
here's the link for the MP4 I shot:
Here's a snippet of my config.g
; Drives M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes backwards M569 P1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes backwards M569 P2 S0 ; physical drive 2 goes backwards M569 P3 S0 ; physical drive 3 goes backwards M569 P4 S0 ; physical drive 4 goes backwards M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3:4 ; set drive mapping M350 E16 I0 ; configure microstepping without interpolation M350 X16 Y16 Z16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation ;M92 X159.6 Y159.6 Z1188.11 E415:415 ; set steps per mm M92 X79.8 Y79.8 Z1188.11 E415:415 ; set steps per mm M566 X660.00 Y660.00 Z12.00 E1500:1500 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min) #################################### M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E10000.00:10000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min) ############################ M201 X300.00 Y300.00 Z20.00 E2000.00:2000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2) ############################### M906 X1200 Y1200 Z900 E800:800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent ###################################e M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout ; Axis Limits M208 X-20 Y-30 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima ################################ M208 X320 Y320 Z350 S0 ; set axis maxima ######################################### ; Endstops M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z ; Z-Probe M950 S0 C"exp.heater3" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds G31 P500 X33.995 Y17.262 Z0.45 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height ############################################### M557 X34:315 Y20:315 S20 ; define mesh grid ##################################################### ; Heaters M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0 M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0 M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 H12 L-5 R4200 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1 M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit M143 H1 S285 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C M308 S2 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 H13 L-5 ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin e1temp M950 H2 C"e1heat" T2 ; create nozzle heater output on e1heat and map it to sensor 2 M307 H2 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit M143 H2 S285 ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C ; Fans M950 F0 C"fan0" Q2000 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off M308 S4 Y"mcu-temp" A"MCU" ; configure sensor 3 as thermistor on pin e1temp for left stepper M308 S3 Y"drivers" A"Drivers" ; configure sensor 4 as temperature warning and overheat flags on the TMC2660 on Duet M950 F2 C"fan2" Q2000 ; create fan 2 on pin fan2 and set its frequency M106 P2 H3:4 L0.5 X1 B1 T40:50 ; set fan 2 value
Could someone help me?
Thanks
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- How have you tested that you have the motors are connected correctly?
- What is the specification of the pancake stepper motors?
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@dc42 said in Help me! Pancake Steppers don't work....:
- How have you tested that you have the motors are connected correctly?
- What is the specification of the pancake stepper motors?
I've tried to connect a "normal" Nema17 (not pancake) with the same connectors and it works fine.
Theese are the specs:
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@thedragonlord said in Help me! Pancake Steppers don't work....:
@dc42 said in Help me! Pancake Steppers don't work....:
- How have you tested that you have the motors are connected correctly?
- What is the specification of the pancake stepper motors?
I've tried to connect a "normal" (not pancake Nema 17) and it works fine.
Yes, but how do you know that you have connected the pancake stepper motor phases correctly? See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_and_connecting_stepper_motors#Section_Connecting_stepper_motors especially the bit about identifying stepper motor phases.
Theese are the specs:
The rated current is 0.7A per phase. In your M906 command you have set 0.8A peak per phase. As the Duet 2 doesn't do standstill current reduction, I suggest you reduce that to 0.7A per phase.
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@dc42 said in Help me! Pancake Steppers don't work....:
@thedragonlord said in Help me! Pancake Steppers don't work....:
@dc42 said in Help me! Pancake Steppers don't work....:
- How have you tested that you have the motors are connected correctly?
- What is the specification of the pancake stepper motors?
I've tried to connect a "normal" (not pancake Nema 17) and it works fine.
Yes, but how do you know that you have connected the pancake stepper motor phases correctly? See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_and_connecting_stepper_motors#Section_Connecting_stepper_motors especially the bit about identifying stepper motor phases.
Theese are the specs:
The rated current is 0.7A per phase. In your M906 command you have set 0.8A peak per phase. As the Duet 2 doesn't do standstill current reduction, I suggest you reduce that to 0.7A per phase.
Phases are correct because I've checked them with a multimeter (and if I plug a non-pancake stepper in the same socket it works). I've also checke the stepper pinout correctness with the multimeter
Tried to change current but stil doesn't work...isn't there some other parameter? As I told you even an original E3D Pancake doesn't work...it looks something related to the....well...pancake....
EDIT
The E3D Pancake works....I really can't understand because the wiring is ok -
@thedragonlord Make sure the connector to the driver is making contact to all pins on the driver output connector. I had that occur and a wire had a bad crimp.
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@stephen6309 said in Help me! Pancake Steppers don't work....:
@thedragonlord Make sure the connector to the driver is making contact to all pins on the driver output connector. I had that occur and a wire had a bad crimp.
they do correct contact
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@thedragonlord SOLVED!!! The pinout showed in the Bondtech datasheet is WRONG the phases sequence in the socket aren't A+ A- B+ B- as showed BUT A+ B+ A- B-
Sorry for the disturb guys and thanks for the help! You can mark the post as SOLVED
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