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    • jaydevdaveundefined
      jaydevdave
      last edited by

      Heater 1 model: gain 472.2, time constant 252.2, dead time 7.7, max PWM 1.00, mode: PID
      Computed PID parameters for setpoint change: P12.4, I0.049, D66.7
      Computed PID parameters for load change: P12.4, I0.588, D66.7

      24V 40W Heater

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
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        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Spurious_heater_faults_and_how_to_avoid_them

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        • jaydevdaveundefined
          jaydevdave
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          https://www.dropbox.com/s/5tmygl7doud4fum/01.png?dl=0

          what does this temp graph mean ?

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          • EasyTargetundefined
            EasyTarget
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            @jaydevdave:

            what does this temp graph mean ?

            That the temperature is fluctuating?

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            • dc42undefined
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              If the temperature shows regular oscillation while the hot end is heated but idle, increase the dead time (D parameter in the M307 command for that heater) slightly. If it only fluctuates when printing, that's normal if the fluctuations are small.

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              • EasyTargetundefined
                EasyTarget
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                Fitting a silicone sock to my heatblock stopped similar small variations I noticed, it's probably worth trying one (or kapton tape layers) to rule out stray drafts etc that can make temps wobble.

                And remember that PID is a feedback system; so it will wobble slightly in response to changing demands (say moving from a big area of constant rate wall/top printing to suddenly printing a lot of support with more travel than print moves), or moving from the cold side of the heatbed to the side out of the drafts, etc.

                Each time the load on the heatblock changes you will see a small fluctuation before the controller brings it back to stable, and tuning PID's is a compromise between getting the fastest possible response, but without overshooting and possible oscillating around the set temperature without stabilizing.

                Disaster? The original Printeye is dying with RRF 3.5 (M208 depreciated).
                PrintPy2024 to the rescue!
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