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    • kuhnikuehnastundefined
      kuhnikuehnast
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      If I probe 2 points to level the bed driven with 2 independent z- axis, is the H- parameter included in the correction process?

      I run 2 independent Z-Axis motors. Yesterday I installed 2 "probing" points (outside the bed, which is floating on silicon dampers) and aligned the bed perfectly. The one probing point is 0.24 mm higher than the other.
      If I now run the following code:

      G30 P0 X-9.957 Y239.998 H0 Z-99999 ; probe point P0
      G30 P1 X332.043 Y239.998 H0.241 Z-99999 S-1 ;S2 - Adjusting; S-1 Report

      the Duet always tells me that there is a difference of ~0.241 and doesn't seem to integrate the H-value in the correction???. I am afraid now to run a G30 with S2, so the bed gets "bent" again and I'll have to readjust everything...

      Hope you can help me!

      greetings kuhni

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
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        Yes, H parameters are taken into account in all G30 Px bed probing operations.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          • kuhnikuehnastundefined
            kuhnikuehnast @dc42
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            @dc42 said in G30- Height correction question:

            Yes, H parameters are taken into account in all G30 Px bed probing operations.

            that's really strange!
            I now tried these 2 macros:

            G30 P0 X-9.957 Y239.998 H0 Z-99999 ; probe point P0
            G30 P1 X332.043 Y239.998 H0 Z-99999 S2 ; H=0

            G30 P0 X-9.957 Y239.998 H0 Z-99999 ; probe point P0
            G30 P1 X332.043 Y239.998 H0.241 Z-99999 S2 ; H=0.241

            I ran both macros directly one after the other. These are the results I got:

            Leadscrew adjustments made: -0.013 0.075, points used 2, deviation before 0.044 after 0.000

            Leadscrew adjustments made: -0.008 0.003, points used 2, deviation before 0.004 after 0.000

            So it seems, that the H-Factor isn't calculated??? Both results are nearly identical but at the 2nd macro there should be at least a difference about ~0.241 mm???

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
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              Hmm, that doesn't look right. Can you try a large H parameter, perhaps 1mm if that won't damage your printer, and test again?

              Which firmware version are you using?

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • kuhnikuehnastundefined
                kuhnikuehnast @dc42
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                @dc42 said in G30- Height correction question:

                Hmm, that doesn't look right. Can you try a large H parameter, perhaps 1mm if that won't damage your printer, and test again?

                Which firmware version are you using?

                It really seems not to pay any attention to the H-factor at all... I now tried different settings with H from 0 up to 5 and i always got ~ the same result... 😕

                This is the code I used (in a macro as well as in bed.g):
                [CODE]
                G1 Z10 ; lift Z=10 to prevent crashing the probing point

                G1 X15.50 Y228.60 F15000 ; go to defined probing point independent of floating bed
                G30 X15.50 Y228.60 ; define this point as Z=0

                G30 P0 X-9.957 Y239.998 H0 Z-99999 ; probe point P0
                G30 P1 X332.043 Y239.998 H0 Z-99999 S2 ; go to defined probing point 2 and do: S2 - Adjusting; S-1 Report

                G1 X45.457 Y8.602 F15000 ; go to probing point on floating bed
                G30 X45.457 Y8.602 ; define this point as Z=0
                [/CODE]

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
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                  What type of Z probe are you using?

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                  • kuhnikuehnastundefined
                    kuhnikuehnast @dc42
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                    @dc42 said in G30- Height correction question:

                    What type of Z probe are you using?

                    It is an original Bl-Touch. Homez / homeall works great also with the defined Offset...

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                    • kuhnikuehnastundefined
                      kuhnikuehnast
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                      So is this a firmware fault or is there something wrong I made? Tried to level the 0.241 mm by aluminium foil, but this didn't work that fine... 😞
                      greetings kuhni

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
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                        I just checked the code and also re-tested the manual bed levelling adjustment wizard, which uses the same code as the leadscrew adjustment. It's working for me, using firmware 2.02RC3.

                        Which firmware version are you using?

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • kuhnikuehnastundefined
                          kuhnikuehnast @dc42
                          last edited by kuhnikuehnast

                          @dc42 said in G30- Height correction question:

                          I just checked the code and also re-tested the manual bed levelling adjustment wizard, which uses the same code as the leadscrew adjustment. It's working for me, using firmware 2.02RC3.

                          Which firmware version are you using?

                          I am now also on 2.02 RC3.
                          It works for me as well, but still the H factor isn't calculated. I already wrote it in your release post of the 2.02RC3 (if you want to, we could also discuss it there?)

                          2 examples:

                          G30 P0 X20 Y20 H0 Z-99999	  ; probe point P0
                          G30 P1 X20 Y20 H0 Z-99999 S-1	  ; go to defined probing point 2 and do: S2 - Adjusting; S-1 Report
                          
                          Results:
                          G32 bed probe heights: -0.005 -0.008, mean -0.006, deviation from mean 0.001
                          

                          Here are both H-factors 0 for both points. This should result in no difference.

                          Now the 2nd test:

                          G30 P0 X20 Y20 H0 Z-99999	  ; probe point P0
                          G30 P1 X20 Y20 H1 Z-99999 S-1	  ; go to defined probing point 2 and do: S2 - Adjusting; S-1 Report
                          
                          
                          Results:
                          G32 bed probe heights: -0.003 0.002, mean -0.000, deviation from mean 0.002
                          

                          Here is P1 with H1 instead of H0. So the report should be at least at a difference of ~1 mm. But The results are still almost the same?
                          Is there maybe an interference with the G31 command as there is a Z- Trigger Z height defined?

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators
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                            What I meant was that the H corrections work for me. This is my usual bed.g file:

                            M561		; clear any bed transform
                            G0 X20 Y0 Z28 F10000
                            
                            G30 P0 X-80 Y-100 Z-99999
                            G30 P1 X80 Y-80 Z-99999
                            G30 P2 X0 Y75 Z-99999
                            G30 P3 X-80 Y200 Z-99999 
                            G30 P4 X80 Y200 S3 Z-99999
                            
                            G0 X0 Y50 Z28
                            

                            Running this gives me:

                            G32
                            Manual corrections required: 0.00 turn up (0.00mm) 0.03 turn up (-0.03mm) 0.05 turn up (-0.05mm)
                            

                            If I change bed.g to this:

                            ; bed.g
                            M561		; clear any bed transform
                            G0 X20 Y0 Z28 F10000
                            
                            G30 P0 X-80 Y-100 Z-99999
                            G30 P1 X80 Y-80 Z-99999
                            G30 P2 X0 Y75 Z-99999
                            G30 P3 X-80 Y200 Z-99999  H1
                            G30 P4 X80 Y200 S3 Z-99999 H1
                            
                            G0 X0 Y50 Z28
                            

                            then it gives me:

                            G32
                            Manual corrections required: 0.00 turn up (0.00mm) 0.63 turn up (-0.63mm) 1.22 turn up (-1.22mm)
                            

                            So the H values are definitely having an effect.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                            • kuhnikuehnastundefined
                              kuhnikuehnast @dc42
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                              @dc42
                              I think that there may be a problem because I am using 2 independent leadscrews...?

                              The important values of my config.g are:

                              ; Leadscrew setting
                              M584 X0 Y1 Z4:2 E3				   			; Define drive mapping- Z= driver number 2 and 4.
                              M671 X-77:297 Y20:20 S3			           			; Set position of the leadscrews
                              
                              ; BLtouchZ-Probe
                              M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1                                			; Disable the 3th heater on PWM channel for BLTouch
                              M558 P9 H5 F180 T15000                             			; Set Z probe type/mode 9. H=Dive Height. F=Speed the bed moves
                              G31 P25 X+26.9 Y5.935 Z1.065                      			; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                              

                              Now did the same test again:

                              M561
                              G30 P0 X20 Y20 Z-99999
                              G30 P1 X200 Y20 S-1 Z-99999 
                              

                              and

                              M561
                              G30 P0 X20 Y20 Z-99999
                              G30 P1 X200 Y20 H20 Z-99999 S-1
                              

                              Results were:

                              G32 bed probe heights: 0.147 0.155, mean 0.151, deviation from mean 0.004
                              G32 bed probe heights: 0.137 0.145, mean 0.141, deviation from mean 0.004
                              

                              So it seems, that as soon as you define independent leadscrews, the H-factor isn't taken into account any more?

                              greetings kuhni

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                              • kuhnikuehnastundefined
                                kuhnikuehnast @kuhnikuehnast
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                                something else, I just found out:
                                I can do a trick:

                                M561					; clear any bed transformation
                                G31 P25 Z0				; set trigger height to 0
                                G30 P0 X20 Y20 Z-99999			; probe 1. point
                                G31 P25 Z10 		     		; set trigger height to 10 
                                G30 P1 X200 Y20 S-1 Z-99999 		; probe 2. point and tell result
                                G31 P25 X+26.9 Y5.935 Z1.065 		; correct trigger height to standart
                                

                                Results:

                                1. Both Z = 0:
                                G32 bed probe heights: 1.205 1.227, mean 1.216, deviation from mean 0.011
                                2. 1. Z = 0; 2. Z = 10:
                                G32 bed probe heights: 1.205 -8.767, mean -3.781, deviation from mean 4.986
                                

                                So this seems to work...?

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
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                                  I think I have spotted the problem. It looks to me that H parameters on G30 commands may not work if your system uses a deployprobe.g or retractprobe.g file. If I confirm this, I will fix it in the 2.02 release.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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