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    • deckingmanundefined
      deckingman
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      I just love really fast non-print moves which is why I'm keeping my micro-stepping low. My print speed is limited by how fast the Diamond hot end can melt filament which tops out at around the equivalent of 130mm/sec for PLA at the temperature I prefer to use. My default "everyday" print speed is around 80 to 90 mm/sec but non-print moves are set to 350 - 400mm/sec (but rarely reach that of course). When you start snapping around like that, you hardly need any retraction, even with longish Bowden tubes.

      Ian
      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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      • DjDemonDundefined
        DjDemonD
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        This is what I am mainly referring to, travel speed, I am using 120mm/s but have used 150 and 175 in the past. For small objects it makes little difference for large ones, it definitely saves time. I'd agree that quality printing above 90mm/s is not something I bother with.

        Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
        www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
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        • InSanityundefined
          InSanity
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          Ok, this makes sense. I'm only running non print moves at 150 mm/s but perhaps will increase this. I find S3D does an OK job minimizing the number of NPM's so it might not make much difference. Certainly something I'm going to investigate more. I can print at 150mm/s so I suspect NPM's could be increased significantly.

          Edit: Might be nice if NPM's could use a different acceleration value.

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          • r123undefined
            r123
            last edited by

            S3d definitely needs an upgrade.

            In the beginning I thought it was smart of them to have zero customer contact so they could concentrate on development.

            Now starting to wonder what pressures (if not customers) will help iron out the quirks of their interface and propel functionality to another level?

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            • DjDemonDundefined
              DjDemonD
              last edited by

              Tried it a few times but that was version 3.0.0 and it seemed to make some bizarre choices of non printing moves compared to slic3r which is my daily drive. Plus it should be called Complicate3d.

              Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
              www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
              PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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              • deckingmanundefined
                deckingman
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                @DjDemonD:

                …................ Plus it should be called Complicate3d.

                Made me chuckle - I'll second that observation though. They do however, honour their 30 day refund policy which was the best feature of it IMO.

                Ian
                https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                • DjDemonDundefined
                  DjDemonD
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                  Well I tried a "trial" version if you know what I mean but wasn't taken by it. I figured I'd opt for the full software if it was going to do what I wanted, but I couldn't find an easy way to switch from layout for one printer to another, so as I have a bunch of them it wasn't going to work.

                  Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                  www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                  PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                  • deckingmanundefined
                    deckingman
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                    It was multi colour that screwed it for me. Two colour was just about doable but 3 was a nightmare. I have done 10 colour using slic3r, just for the hell of it, and it's a breeze (although it doesn't do wipe or prime towers though). S3D does do prime towers - it prints the tower, then changes the tool and continues with the print. (huh?). I never did get an answer from them as to why they found it necessary to purge the tool when it was finished with but not before it was about to be used.

                    Ian
                    https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                    https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                    • InSanityundefined
                      InSanity
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                      @r123:

                      S3d definitely needs an upgrade.

                      In the beginning I thought it was smart of them to have zero customer contact so they could concentrate on development.

                      Now starting to wonder what pressures (if not customers) will help iron out the quirks of their interface and propel functionality to another level?

                      I think what they will do is just move to a new major version and ask everyone to fork out more money. I'm very disappointed in the rate they are releasing anything at all, I mean the product next to never gets updates and it has a ton of problems. It's almost as if they look around and say, nobody is on our heals so we can slow to a crawl.

                      Duet WiFi Powered FFCP with E3D legends hotend system. BLTouch grid leveling.

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                      • Dougal1957undefined
                        Dougal1957
                        last edited by

                        What version are you actually using.

                        I have had 2 updates since I purchased it 6 months ago?

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                        • InSanityundefined
                          InSanity
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                          @Dougal1957:

                          What version are you actually using.

                          I have had 2 updates since I purchased it 6 months ago?

                          3.1.1 , for a company with a single purpose in life 2 updates in 6 months is really bad.

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                          • Dougal1957undefined
                            Dougal1957
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                            Yeah I can see where your coming from.

                            They also seem to implement things in strange way's such as firmware retraction they have used deprecated codes for it as far as I can tell it is only Teacup that supports it (Tho the Duet does as well now)

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