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    • Yonkimanundefined
      Yonkiman
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      Two suggestions, one to improve Z probing accuracy, the other to improve mesh bed leveling (background is here: https://www.duet3d.com/forum/thread.php?pid=32725).

      • A new option for G30 single-point probe commands to probe multiple points and average them to generate the final height for (X,Y). Ideally you'd add NUMBER_OF_POINTS and RADIUS to the probe command, and G30 would then probe that number of points around the given (X,Y), as well as (X,Y) itself. (Since I'm wishing, let's consider an additional option to apply a median filter to this before averaging and/or throw out the lowest and highest measurements.) I think this would increase the accuracy and repeatability of Z probes regardless of what kind of probe you're using.

      • The ability to apply a median filter to heightmap.csv to eliminate outliers (incorrect probe heights). This could prevent one or more bad points from distorting the bed map.

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      • Luca79undefined
        Luca79
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        MQTT is really something that would open the door to many interesting applications. In principle, the integration of MQTT should be fairly easy since many MQTT implementations for ESP8266 are publicly available.

        @jmg123:

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        I have one of my Duets wired up to a CNC machine at the moment, though it requires a lot of messing about to from Fusion 360 to actually milling something with the Duet. I can help test stuff out though.

        My other suggestion would be support for MQTT, to allow the duet to signal other things with it's status, e.g. current temperature, finished printing etc. With this it would be possible to do stuff like turn off plugs, turn on lights or send text messages when a print had finished.

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        • veng1undefined
          veng1
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          Use StallGuard to tune motors for maximum speed and acceleration.

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          • waldo563undefined
            waldo563
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            18, 20, 6, 2, 3
            Thanks

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
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              @veng1:

              Use StallGuard to tune motors for maximum speed and acceleration.

              StallGuard won't tell you the maximum speed you can achieve, but you can work it out using the spreadsheet linked to from https://duet3d.com/wiki/Choosing_stepper_motors#How_to_work_out_the_power_supply_voltage_you_need.

              I am not sure that StallGuard can tell you the maximum accelerations available either, because what it actually detects is increasing slip angle between the ideal motor position and actual motor position. This slip angle increases with motor load. So it can warn you when the load increases to a value that is close to the maximum value before stalling, but only if you calibrate that value first.

              If enough users participated, I guess we could build up a database of recommended stallgard settings for various stepper motor models.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • Markdndundefined
                Markdnd
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                Can I add a vote for 19 (Cool down power off wait) with the acknowledgement that a maintained supply to VFAN would achieve the same thing. (On that topic, any chance of proper supply terminals for the fan bus on the next generation of boards? Connecting via VFAN feels a bit hacky)

                I’d also like to put in a word for auto-updates.

                Whilst I accept the dangers of auto-updating (I’m currently resisting a similar request on my own software) can I suggest that you consider providing an update wizard that backs up the current configuration then walks the user through any configuration changes before installing the update.
                If you need additional incentive, just think of all the support requests you’ll save if you get it right.

                A clear indication on the client that updates (including paneldue and the probe) are available would be useful too - I recently updated my main board to the latest 1.20 release but totally failed to spot a matching update for my panelDue.

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
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                  Cool down power off wait is already implemented, see https://duet3d.com/wiki/G-code#M81:_ATX_Power_Off.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • veng1undefined
                    veng1
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                    @dc42:

                    @veng1:

                    Use StallGuard to tune motors for maximum speed and acceleration.

                    StallGuard won't tell you the maximum speed you can achieve, but you can work it out using the spreadsheet linked to from https://duet3d.com/wiki/Choosing_stepper_motors#How_to_work_out_the_power_supply_voltage_you_need.

                    I am not sure that StallGuard can tell you the maximum accelerations available either, because what it actually detects is increasing slip angle between the ideal motor position and actual motor position. This slip angle increases with motor load. So it can warn you when the load increases to a value that is close to the maximum value before stalling, but only if you calibrate that value first.

                    If enough users participated, I guess we could build up a database of recommended stallgard settings for various stepper motor models.

                    I was thinking of a serpentine pattern that gradually increased speed and or acceleration until Stallguard indicated that the motor was slipping and then back off a little. In the past when I needed to tune steppers for dot matrix printers is was very much cut and try. I envision a process somewhat akin to tuning a PID loop where the intent is to converge as fast as possible without overshoot.

                    Admittedly, everything is easy if you don't have to do it yourself.

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                    • coleman.joeundefined
                      coleman.joe
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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
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                        The problem is, Stallguard doesn't really tell you that the motor is slipping. What it tells you is that the load is higher than the threshold you have configured.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • veng1undefined
                          veng1
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                          Oh. Clearly, I need to read the data sheet.

                          Maybe an accelerometer is what I should be thinking about.

                          Prusa claims some high print and move speeds. I had assumed they used StallGuard for their tuning but maybe they just raised the threshold until it stopped working, perhaps with an accelerometer to tell them it was skipping, and then backed it off. Or maybe it's just not a useful number that they claim.

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators
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                            Prusa will have done tests to establish how high the stallguard reading can safely get before the motor starts skipping steps, so they know what stallguard threshold to set to detect skipped steps in normal operation. It's unlikely that they used stallguard to do that testing.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            • SputnikOC3dundefined
                              SputnikOC3d
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                              5 , 6, 7, 10 ,17

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                              • SputnikOC3dundefined
                                SputnikOC3d
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                                @Yonkiman:

                                Two suggestions, one to improve Z probing accuracy, the other to improve mesh bed leveling (background is here: https://www.duet3d.com/forum/thread.php?pid=32725).

                                • A new option for G30 single-point probe commands to probe multiple points and average them to generate the final height for (X,Y). Ideally you'd add NUMBER_OF_POINTS and RADIUS to the probe command, and G30 would then probe that number of points around the given (X,Y), as well as (X,Y) itself. (Since I'm wishing, let's consider an additional option to apply a median filter to this before averaging and/or throw out the lowest and highest measurements.) I think this would increase the accuracy and repeatability of Z probes regardless of what kind of probe you're using.

                                • The ability to apply a median filter to heightmap.csv to eliminate outliers (incorrect probe heights). This could prevent one or more bad points from distorting the bed map.

                                Yes for this … doing the averaging manually and spreadsheets for the BL Touch ... repeat-ability ? mehhhh ....

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                                • DjDemonDundefined
                                  DjDemonD
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                                  Veng1 Prusa have it easy in this regard they're using one carefully chosen motor and optimising it. But print a tower and just bump acceleration up every 5mm, then another for jerk. You'll soon see how far you can go.

                                  Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                                  www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                                  PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                                  • Qdeathstarundefined
                                    Qdeathstar
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                                    18, 7, 1

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                                    • nebulus7undefined
                                      nebulus7
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                                      1, 2, 6, 17

                                      Additionally, the integration of something like this into the web interface would be awesome, to give accurate print time estimates and statistical info about the print job: http://www.gcodeanalyser.com/

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
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                                        @nebulus7:

                                        Additionally, the integration of something like this into the web interface would be awesome, to give accurate print time estimates and statistical info about the print job: http://www.gcodeanalyser.com/

                                        Please request that in the DWC Wishlist section.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        • DarrenAntonundefined
                                          DarrenAnton
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                                          6. Live monitoring of TMC2660 driver status and reporting of problems (e.g. overheat warning).

                                          1. Reworked WiFi server code, including configuration using files on the SD card, automatic retry if the connection is lost, live reporting of signal strength and status, more reliable support of multiple concurrent connections, and optional FTP and Telnet support.

                                          2. Better network security, including SSL if it can be made to work fast enough. Requires most of #1 in this list as a prerequisite.

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators
                                            last edited by

                                            #6 is already implemented.

                                            #1 is mostly implemented. You can read the network status via M552 and the signal strength via M122. FTP and Telnet are supported.

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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