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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
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      @frontrange said in Firmware upgrade from 1.15b fails:

      Where do I find this please:

      M997 S2
      File DuetWebControl.bin not found
      ok

      Are you currently on 1.18.1?

      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M997_Perform_in_application_firmware_update

      S2 - web server file system, filename sys/DuetWebControl.bin (needed only when using RepRapFirmware 1.18 series and earlier for Duet 2 WiFi)

      After 1.18 it stopped being a .bin file and became a separate zip file which unpacked to a /www folder that hosted the files for DWC.

      You can get the webcontrol bins from here: https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/releases?after=v1.19
      Though you'll need to rename them to DuetWenControl.bin because the file names include the version number.

      You're getting close. Trust me, once you get to 2.0 and reconnected to the DWC the update process becomes far far easier.

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      • frontrangeundefined
        frontrange
        last edited by

        I do not understand what you are telling me to do. I am on Duet WiFi FIRMWARE_VERSION: 1.18.1 ELECTRONICS: Duet WiFi 1.0 FIRMWARE_DATE: 2017-0

        I need some actual direction here, if I'm supposed to pick and chose files between different releases, or files are misnamed or whatever I need actual directions that can be followed without bricking this thing again, that is assuming I can resist the urge to crush it with a sledgehammer.

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by

          So I don't think you really need the webcontrol bin at all at this point since you're aim isn't to continue to use 1.18 you want to upgrade past it.

          So you have 1.18 installed you should be able to follow the procedure here for going from 1.18 to 1.19

          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Installing_and_Updating_Firmware#Section_Upgrading_to_DuetWiFiFirmware_1_Num_19

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          • A Former User?
            A Former User @frontrange
            last edited by

            @frontrange said in Firmware upgrade from 1.15b fails:

            without bricking this thing again

            I can 100% guarantee you that you will only brick something once... and just to calm the FUD you don't brick a Duet through firmware upgrades, as it can be recovered by USB unless physically broken.

            That out of the way, there is no point in going through every incremental release, but you really should read the whatsnew section for every release. Then get the full 2.03 stable release which has the complete archive. Now you should be able to update to the 2.04RC1 binary if you need any of the features from that, if not stick with the stable 2.03.

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            • frontrangeundefined
              frontrange
              last edited by

              Now what?? Right back to where I started, just stuck at a slightly later release:

              M997 S2
              Trying to connect at 460800 baud: success
              Erasing 3125248 bytes...
              Uploading file...
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              M115
              FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet WiFi FIRMWARE_VERSION: 1.18.1 ELECTRONICS: Duet WiFi 1.0 FIRMWARE_DATE: 2017-04-09
              ok

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
                last edited by

                I suggest you upgrade to 2.03 using this procedure https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Installing_and_Updating_Firmware#Section_How_to_recover_if_the_main_firmware_and_WiFi_firmware_versions_get_out_of_step_on_your_Duet_2_WiFi.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                • frontrangeundefined
                  frontrange
                  last edited by

                  After spending however many hours trying to do what I would have thought was a simple firmware upgrade I've come to the end of my rope with this thing.

                  I followed every set of directions to the letter. I went on a scavenger hunt for the latest needed files spread across multiple releases because nothing is properly organized so you can just do a single download and roll. And I have now got the latest code installed on a controller that will not start the wifi.

                  These directions are crap. Some of the missing steps I could figure out, like they start by telling you to disable the wifi in config, and never tell you to go back and remove the comment, or they tell you to just plug in the sd card and send the upgrade command, but make no mention that the card isn't reread till you power cycle so files will not be found.

                  What other steps are missing? I'm too old to keep torturing myself with trying to get this haphazard collection of ideas to work.

                  Thanks anyway...

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
                    last edited by dc42

                    Are you able to connect to the Duet from your PC using YAT or another terminal emulation program? If so, what version does it report when you send M115?

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    • frontrangeundefined
                      frontrange
                      last edited by

                      Told you I'm done, its in the trash where it belongs. Thanks anyway.

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by dc42

                        If that's how you feel, I'll mark this as solved so that nobody else who want to help wastes any more time looking at it.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • frontrangeundefined
                          frontrange
                          last edited by

                          Whatever floats your boat.

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators @frontrange
                            last edited by

                            I forgot to mention, you have the option of asking for help again and setting it back to unsolved if you change your mind.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            • frontrangeundefined
                              frontrange
                              last edited by

                              After walking away from this for a bit it occurred to me that following those directions may have wiped my network configuration out without happening to mention that tidbit.

                              Sure enough, that was the last problem. I wouldn't ever recommend this process to anyone else, leave it be or buy a new one. I wasted a full day on this.

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators @frontrange
                                last edited by

                                @frontrange said in Firmware upgrade from 1.15b fails:

                                After walking away from this for a bit it occurred to me that following those directions may have wiped my network configuration out without happening to mention that tidbit.

                                Thanks for pointing this out. Yes, upgrading from pre-1.19 to 1.19 or later firmware requires you to re-enter the WiFi access point details. I'll add this to those instructions.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                • frontrangeundefined
                                  frontrange
                                  last edited by frontrange

                                  Just adding that note isn't a fix for this. The documentation is a cross between a train wreck and a boiler explosion, I've honestly never seen anything like it. You don't give an end user and endless list of if..then..else conditions to get through a firmware upgrade, then leave out a third of the steps.

                                  In the end I went form 1.18.1 to 2.04 in one step, but first I had to scavenge all the files from different places, and then make copies of some with different names to satisfy the initial firmware, etc, not knowing except by trial and error what release of what would work with the other files I collected. Why can't there be one damn image with the latest stuff, and any additional renaming, duplication, whatever in one SD image? That is exactly what I did but it took hours of misdirection to get there...

                                  And then maybe have someone actually run through all the steps and make sure they ARE ALL WRITTEN DOWN...

                                  This board cost me under $200 to buy, and nearly 10X that in my time just to get the stupid firmware update done.

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                                  • A Former User?
                                    A Former User
                                    last edited by

                                    https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/blob/dev/WHATS_NEW.md under version 1.20

                                    When uploading firmware to the WiFi module, the system parameter is cleared

                                    @bearer said in Firmware upgrade from 1.15b fails:

                                    but you really should read the whatsnew section for every release.

                                    You were given all the information you needed, but due to attitude it wasn't spoon-fed.

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                                    • frontrangeundefined
                                      frontrange
                                      last edited by frontrange

                                      Oh that's really rich. There are over 30 releases between where I started and the latest, and you think everything I needed to know could have been found by reading each and every set of release notes on every one of them huh? You pretty sure about that??

                                      And I'm sure you also read all the terms and conditions on every web site you visit before checking OK?

                                      Of course your suggestion make MUCH more sense that doing it my way and making one sd image and one set of complete instructions, why do that?

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                                      • fcwiltundefined
                                        fcwilt
                                        last edited by

                                        So you dug it out of the trash and got it working?

                                        Good.

                                        Based on my time here your experience is fairly unique.

                                        I've got five sets of Duet2 WiFi/Duex5 boards and have never had the problems upgrading that you encountered.

                                        Most folks don't wait so long to between firmware upgrades.

                                        Frederick

                                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                        • frontrangeundefined
                                          frontrange
                                          last edited by

                                          It was only 3 years man. I've been in the industry for 40 years and I've seen decade old firmware as many times as current firmware in customer equipment.

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                                          • A Former User?
                                            A Former User
                                            last edited by A Former User

                                            ALL of the changes are relevant for your upgrade, thats why they're listed. If you choose to save up two three years worth of releases and not bother checking whats changed its asking a bit much to expect someone to maintain a one-click upgrade path for every version under the sun imo.

                                            ESPECIALLY since you would still have to adapt your configuration file to any changes there, I recall one of the earlier versions have the motor direction swapped for instance, the manufacturer cannot maintain yours and everyone elses config file for any permutation of upgrades for years on end.

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