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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      I suggest you upgrade to 2.03 using this procedure https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Installing_and_Updating_Firmware#Section_How_to_recover_if_the_main_firmware_and_WiFi_firmware_versions_get_out_of_step_on_your_Duet_2_WiFi.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • frontrangeundefined
        frontrange
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        After spending however many hours trying to do what I would have thought was a simple firmware upgrade I've come to the end of my rope with this thing.

        I followed every set of directions to the letter. I went on a scavenger hunt for the latest needed files spread across multiple releases because nothing is properly organized so you can just do a single download and roll. And I have now got the latest code installed on a controller that will not start the wifi.

        These directions are crap. Some of the missing steps I could figure out, like they start by telling you to disable the wifi in config, and never tell you to go back and remove the comment, or they tell you to just plug in the sd card and send the upgrade command, but make no mention that the card isn't reread till you power cycle so files will not be found.

        What other steps are missing? I'm too old to keep torturing myself with trying to get this haphazard collection of ideas to work.

        Thanks anyway...

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
          last edited by dc42

          Are you able to connect to the Duet from your PC using YAT or another terminal emulation program? If so, what version does it report when you send M115?

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          • frontrangeundefined
            frontrange
            last edited by

            Told you I'm done, its in the trash where it belongs. Thanks anyway.

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
              last edited by dc42

              If that's how you feel, I'll mark this as solved so that nobody else who want to help wastes any more time looking at it.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • frontrangeundefined
                frontrange
                last edited by

                Whatever floats your boat.

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @frontrange
                  last edited by

                  I forgot to mention, you have the option of asking for help again and setting it back to unsolved if you change your mind.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • frontrangeundefined
                    frontrange
                    last edited by

                    After walking away from this for a bit it occurred to me that following those directions may have wiped my network configuration out without happening to mention that tidbit.

                    Sure enough, that was the last problem. I wouldn't ever recommend this process to anyone else, leave it be or buy a new one. I wasted a full day on this.

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators @frontrange
                      last edited by

                      @frontrange said in Firmware upgrade from 1.15b fails:

                      After walking away from this for a bit it occurred to me that following those directions may have wiped my network configuration out without happening to mention that tidbit.

                      Thanks for pointing this out. Yes, upgrading from pre-1.19 to 1.19 or later firmware requires you to re-enter the WiFi access point details. I'll add this to those instructions.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • frontrangeundefined
                        frontrange
                        last edited by frontrange

                        Just adding that note isn't a fix for this. The documentation is a cross between a train wreck and a boiler explosion, I've honestly never seen anything like it. You don't give an end user and endless list of if..then..else conditions to get through a firmware upgrade, then leave out a third of the steps.

                        In the end I went form 1.18.1 to 2.04 in one step, but first I had to scavenge all the files from different places, and then make copies of some with different names to satisfy the initial firmware, etc, not knowing except by trial and error what release of what would work with the other files I collected. Why can't there be one damn image with the latest stuff, and any additional renaming, duplication, whatever in one SD image? That is exactly what I did but it took hours of misdirection to get there...

                        And then maybe have someone actually run through all the steps and make sure they ARE ALL WRITTEN DOWN...

                        This board cost me under $200 to buy, and nearly 10X that in my time just to get the stupid firmware update done.

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                        • A Former User?
                          A Former User
                          last edited by

                          https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/blob/dev/WHATS_NEW.md under version 1.20

                          When uploading firmware to the WiFi module, the system parameter is cleared

                          @bearer said in Firmware upgrade from 1.15b fails:

                          but you really should read the whatsnew section for every release.

                          You were given all the information you needed, but due to attitude it wasn't spoon-fed.

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                          • frontrangeundefined
                            frontrange
                            last edited by frontrange

                            Oh that's really rich. There are over 30 releases between where I started and the latest, and you think everything I needed to know could have been found by reading each and every set of release notes on every one of them huh? You pretty sure about that??

                            And I'm sure you also read all the terms and conditions on every web site you visit before checking OK?

                            Of course your suggestion make MUCH more sense that doing it my way and making one sd image and one set of complete instructions, why do that?

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                            • fcwiltundefined
                              fcwilt
                              last edited by

                              So you dug it out of the trash and got it working?

                              Good.

                              Based on my time here your experience is fairly unique.

                              I've got five sets of Duet2 WiFi/Duex5 boards and have never had the problems upgrading that you encountered.

                              Most folks don't wait so long to between firmware upgrades.

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              • frontrangeundefined
                                frontrange
                                last edited by

                                It was only 3 years man. I've been in the industry for 40 years and I've seen decade old firmware as many times as current firmware in customer equipment.

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                                • A Former User?
                                  A Former User
                                  last edited by A Former User

                                  ALL of the changes are relevant for your upgrade, thats why they're listed. If you choose to save up two three years worth of releases and not bother checking whats changed its asking a bit much to expect someone to maintain a one-click upgrade path for every version under the sun imo.

                                  ESPECIALLY since you would still have to adapt your configuration file to any changes there, I recall one of the earlier versions have the motor direction swapped for instance, the manufacturer cannot maintain yours and everyone elses config file for any permutation of upgrades for years on end.

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                                  • frontrangeundefined
                                    frontrange
                                    last edited by

                                    BS, I made a single image that covered everything back all the way to the beginning, but I had to scavenge the files from different places and fix the directions. If I'd known what I was doing I could have had it done in no time and all that would be involved in maintaining that image is updating files and re-linking names.

                                    This is just your bullshit excuses to cover for bullshit process.

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                                    • A Former User?
                                      A Former User @frontrange
                                      last edited by

                                      @frontrange said in Firmware upgrade from 1.15b fails:

                                      I made a single image that covered everything back all the way to the beginning,

                                      Single image for both the ESP8266 and the SAM4E8E? You're clearly a better man than me. I shall leave you to bask in your glory

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                                      • frontrangeundefined
                                        frontrange
                                        last edited by frontrange

                                        MY beginning if you'll read the title of this post was 1.15, I have no idea what you're talking about.

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                                        • deckingmanundefined
                                          deckingman
                                          last edited by

                                          I suggest everyone should calm down a bit. @frontrange does have a point and I can understand his frustrations. We should all be aware that not all users are as keen as we are in keeping our systems up to date. "If it ain't broke don't fix it" is a reasonable adage. The fact that he hadn't upgraded his system for 3 years should not be construed as negligence on his part.

                                          Unfortunately for him, the pace of Duet updates is far faster than just about any other firmware that he might have come across. This is because firmware features are driven by users and implemented quickly. Which is a good thing but the unfortunate side effect is that there can be very many changes after only a few months. So if some people do not have the time or inclination to keep abreast of developments as we do, when they do eventually come to upgrade, they can have a lot of catching up to do. But because they haven't been able to keep abreast of developments, they aren't intialy aware of that fact. Hence their frustration.

                                          Ian
                                          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                          • frontrangeundefined
                                            frontrange
                                            last edited by

                                            Just to be clear, I finished the machine work on my printer 3 years ago but it sat next to my workbench for all that time unused because I've been kind of busy.

                                            Does anyone think I'm the only guy who has a Duet printer project on the shelf waiting to be finished?

                                            Like I said, in the end my solution was simple and covered updating my 1.18 all the way to current in one step. I'm pissed because I had to spend so much time figuring out the steps and locating the files. Is it really unreasonable to expect that someone on the other side of the equal sign for this monetary transaction do a little due diligence and clean up the awful documentation because I've read the comments by others and I'm not the only one who's had to just suffer through a firmware upgrade when dealing with older code releases.

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