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    AlexMl
    last edited by 7 Oct 2019, 09:49

    Hi,

    I received my Duet Wifi 1.04c and realized that there is no capacitor soldered onto C99. All pictures that I found on the web show a capacitor at this spot and I didn't read of any change, so I want to make sure that the circuit is ok before I disassemble my working printer.

    Can anyone please confirm whether this is by intention or should I file an RMA?

    Thanks and best regards,

    Alex

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      DocTrucker @AlexMl
      last edited by 7 Oct 2019, 10:17

      @AlexMl appears to be one of the capacitors after U3. U3 is responsible for providing 5VDC from V_IN.

      https://github.com/T3P3/Duet

      Wait for the Duet team to comment on it's presence. I can't see where the notes are for the changes on hardware revisions.

      Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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        dc42 administrators
        last edited by dc42 10 Jul 2019, 12:17 7 Oct 2019, 12:16

        C99 has been omitted intentionally in the most recent Duet WiFi production.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          AlexMl
          last edited by 7 Oct 2019, 12:51

          Thank you very much @DocTrucker and @dc42 ! Looking forward to install the board! 👍

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            themelle @dc42
            last edited by 8 Oct 2019, 08:55

            @dc42 said in Curious about a missing capacitor:

            C99 has been omitted intentionally in the most recent Duet WiFi production.

            Is this a self-contained change - so users of older 1.04 boards may also just remove C99? Or is it part of a bigger rework with multiple dependent changes?

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              dc42 administrators
              last edited by 8 Oct 2019, 14:08

              It's a self-contained change. But there is no need to remove it if your Duet is working properly.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                themelle @dc42
                last edited by 8 Oct 2019, 14:56

                @dc42 said in Curious about a missing capacitor:

                It's a self-contained change. But there is no need to remove it if your Duet is working properly.

                Thanks a bunch, David!

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                  DocTrucker @dc42
                  last edited by 9 Oct 2019, 06:09

                  @dc42 said in Curious about a missing capacitor:

                  C99 has been omitted intentionally in the most recent Duet WiFi production.

                  1.04b pdf? Is there a readable list of changes any where to save us needing to ask about changes or play spot the difference when pdfs are available?

                  Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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                    T3P3Tony administrators @DocTrucker
                    last edited by 9 Oct 2019, 10:18

                    @DocTrucker I have uploaded the pdfs here:

                    https://github.com/T3P3/Duet/tree/master/Duet2/Duet2v1.04

                    The version history explains the overview of the changes:

                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Hardware_Overview

                    We don't publish a list of everything component moved/added/changed/set to DNP etc.

                    www.duet3d.com

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                      droftarts administrators
                      last edited by 9 Oct 2019, 13:44

                      Particularly as C99 is near the 5V regulator, I expect it's related to this:
                      "Further minor component value change/tweaks to improve 5V regulator and EMI performance."
                      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Hardware_Overview#Section_PCB_revision_v1_04a_b_c

                      Ian

                      Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                        DocTrucker @T3P3Tony
                        last edited by 9 Oct 2019, 15:14

                        @T3P3Tony thanks, the combination of schematics and readable over view is plently.

                        @droftarts yes, I suspected something along those lines as it was on the output of U3. Tony added the readable comments at the same time as the pdfs:

                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/History/Hardware_Overview?revidA=2007&revidB=2367

                        Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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