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    • oryharaundefined
      oryhara
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      So I switched to the industrial pneumatic fitting in the groovemount, and even went back to my no-name bowden tube, which I measured as less than the capricorn at 3.86. Capricort was 3.97 outer diameter. It held at the extruder end.
      Did not hold at the hotend.

      I'm going to try and find a way to get a pneumatic fitting at the hotend side.

      Does anyone know the thread pitch of the M12 nut on the smart effector?

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti @oryhara
        last edited by

        @oryhara said in Bowden tube disconnecting:

        Does anyone know the thread pitch of the M12 nut on the smart effector?

        see
        https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/12670/where-can-i-get-a-new-heatsink/2

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        • oryharaundefined
          oryhara @Veti
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          @Veti

          Thank you. I was just coming back here to say that I found that.

          Y'all are very helpful on this forum. Fantastic, really.

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          • oryharaundefined
            oryhara
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            so this:
            https://www.mcmaster.com/98434a683
            should allow connection of a M10x1.0 pneumatic fitting to the threaded E3d hotend, and enable tightening of the hotend to the smart effector. Because it has a hex-shaped body, it can be tightened like a nut.

            Sadly shipping is 1-3 weeks, so It may be some time before I can report on how well it worked.

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            • oryharaundefined
              oryhara
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              I'll tell you what I love about mcmaster, as long as we're on the subject...

              They have CAD models for every(almost) part in their catalog. Highly detailed, with properly-modeled threads. So it might be 1-3 weeks before the stainless steel part shows up. But I can print a copy of it today.

              Minor alteration to make it as wide as a standard M12 nut(19mm). and give it a center hole big enough for 4mm tubing. SmartEffectorPneumaticConnectorHeatsinkAdapter.STL

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              • oryharaundefined
                oryhara
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                I just had an apostrophe[sic]

                I have been using the anycubic predator default print settings, changing 1 or 2 settings at a time to try and sort this mess out.

                it's doing 5mm retraction(anycubic default). Way more than I need with any these extruder setups. But the anycubic knockoff hotend had a different heat break than the V6 in there now. I bet I'm getting PLA melt up past the heat break with that much retraction. And then of course it cools and sticks to the sides and then jams. duh.

                Now i feel very silly for going through all this much unnecessary work.

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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti
                  last edited by

                  yes pla does not like all metal hotends without some sort of coating.

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                  • oryharaundefined
                    oryhara @Veti
                    last edited by

                    @Veti

                    well i'm not much a fan of PLA. In fact i'd done only ABS for the last 7 years.

                    I'm only using it because this printer came with a whole spool and i'm not finished with my enclosure.

                    2mm retraction seems to have fixed the problem. I bet 5mm was getting it back up past the heat break and jamming it all up.

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                    • TLASundefined
                      TLAS @oryhara
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                      @oryhara

                      In case anyone else encounters this issue in the future, I thought I'd add a recent finding:

                      I've been having this issue frequently near a BMG extruder outlet. I'd cut the tube a couple of times to give it fresh material to clamp onto, which did help a bit, but the issue was slowly getting worse.

                      I had a couple of the E3D Bowden fittings spares laying around and thought I'd try replacing the inner fitting. I cut 1/4 of it off to get it out, but was actually fairly surprised when I got it out.

                      Bowden Fitting Covered with PTFE Residue

                      The original tube (also from Anycubic) had left some residue on the Bowden clip - you can see it in white. This was essentially coating the clip in PTFE as well, which substantially reduces the friction holding the tube in place (PTFE on PTFE has the nearly the lowest friction coefficient possible). I switched the tube to some leftover Capricorn tubing and changed out the fitting - I've noticed the difference immediately despite the smaller outer diameter of the Capricorn.

                      TLDR?
                      Public Service Announcement: Throw away your Anycubic PTFE tubing and replace the Bowden insert if you're having this problem.

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                      • oryharaundefined
                        oryhara
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