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    • V3DPrintingundefined
      V3DPrinting
      last edited by

      Hi

      I upgraded my cartesian printer (Ultimaker clone) from a capacitive sensor to IR sensor directly plugged into my Duet 2 Ethernet running Firmware 2.04.

      No issues setting up the sensor, nor calibrating it.

      But making a mesh bed leveling (G29) on a 25 points square surface (250 mm) always leads to a tilted bed from the front to the rear with a deviation of 1 mm or so from the front edge to the rear edge.

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      I've done a careful manual bed leveling with the bed and nozzle at normal working temperature, on a clean glass plate with no coating over a black matte cardboard.

      So I am sure the bed is perfectly leveled against the gantry, but the probing gives a different view.

      The printhead is guided by 2 LM6UU on each axis which are in good conditions, so no tilt suspected.

      Has it something to do with temperature ?
      My previous capacitive sensor was having a bias with temperature and derives over the probing.

      Thanks for the feedbacks

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      • dc42undefined
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        last edited by dc42

        The IR sensor is not temperature-sensitive. The height map looks quite flat, so i think the bed surface is OK for the sensor.

        Can you provide some photos of your printer, so that I can see how the Y axis moves?

        In what direction and by how much is the sensor offset fro the nozzle?

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        • gtj0undefined
          gtj0
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          Did you do the levelling following this guide?
          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Using_the_manual_bed_levelling_assistant

          If you run it a few times, are the numbers converging?

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          • V3DPrintingundefined
            V3DPrinting @gtj0
            last edited by

            @gtj0 said in Mesh bed leveling issues with IR Sensor:

            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Using_the_manual_bed_levelling_assistant

            Sorry for the late reply

            I don't use the leveling assistant.

            I level my bed the old way, moving the nozzle close to the 3 adjusting screws, using a sheet of paper to fine tune.

            Doing the tuning twice is generally sufficient to have a good leveling.
            I will set up the manual assistant in the near future, at it will save me some time.

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            • V3DPrintingundefined
              V3DPrinting @dc42
              last edited by

              Sorry for the late reply, busy period till the holidays break.

              @dc42 said in Mesh bed leveling issues with IR Sensor:

              The IR sensor is not temperature-sensitive. The height map looks quite flat, so i think the bed surface is OK for the sensor.

              Yes the measurements are pretty repeatable.

              Can you provide some photos of your printer, so that I can see how the Y axis moves?

              My printer is a Mankati Full-scale XT Plus, really a Ultimaker 2 clone.
              Y axis is mounted on two linear ball bearings (LM6UU japanese industrial grade), side by side, on a 6 mm rod.
              So bearing is on a 38 mm length, minimizing the tilt of the printhead.
              Same on X axis.

              In what direction and by how much is the sensor offset fro the nozzle?

              The offset from the left nozzle is X + 41,2 Y + 11,25. Zero been on the nozzle tip.
              Only the rear of the printhead has sufficient room in order to keep the build volume.

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              • V3DPrintingundefined
                V3DPrinting
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                @dc42 Is this mesh probing error being fixed in the 2,05 or 3 FW versions ?

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