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3 x Z-Axis - Idea vs Engineering reality

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    Garfield
    last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 09:38

    All things good to know.

    I kind of wish I was aware when I started designing the printer last year - and I'm a fan of E3D - was going to buy a toolchanger machine until it got 'terminated' so you'd think I'd have known about this joint.

    I've never uploaded to Thingiverse, I'm rarely a consumer, I am a Fusion subscriber though ( yes I pay for it ).

    I've not experienced the Z axis thing on the Prusa but I have seen steppers 'twitch' on startup.

    I'm working on something, I'll let the group klnow how (if) it works out.

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      jay_s_uk @Garfield
      last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 09:45

      @Garfield what do you mean about the E3D tool changer being 'terminated'?

      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        Garfield
        last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 09:54

        They decided not to go to market - cost constraints or something - I read it in one of their blogs but I'm struggling to find it now.

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          jay_s_uk @Garfield
          last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 10:22

          @Garfield they definitely sell it.
          It's still closed to people on the original interest list but I think in the next month or so they should have all the back orders complete

          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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            Garfield
            last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 10:22

            Looks like I may be wrong on this one - found the blog post and it relates to the 'Big Box' ...

            But I still don't see anywhere to buy the toolchanger on their site. All that I can find is an opportunity to join the queue, the last update where it was indicated to be 'going into production' was April last year.

            Whilst I was interested I never joined the queue and I'm glad that I didn't. I may reconsider if it ever finally appears.

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              dc42 administrators @Garfield
              last edited by dc42 23 Jan 2020, 11:39

              @Garfield said in 3 x Z-Axis - Idea vs Engineering reality:

              Looks like I may be wrong on this one - found the blog post and it relates to the 'Big Box' ...

              But I still don't see anywhere to buy the toolchanger on their site. All that I can find is an opportunity to join the queue, the last update where it was indicated to be 'going into production' was April last year.

              Whilst I was interested I never joined the queue and I'm glad that I didn't. I may reconsider if it ever finally appears.

              They are getting close to the end of the queue now, so I expect the kit will go on general sale soon. Bear in mind that it is not intended to be a complete printer, more a platform for experimenting with tools.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                Danal
                last edited by Danal 23 Jan 2020, 11:47

                @Garfield Also take a look at the Jubilee. E3D tool kinematic compatible. Uses a 3 motor kinematic bed. The designer is a graduate student who's studied 'constraint' in machine design... there are many, many, subtle features on this machine...

                And, yes, I've built one. So ask any questions.

                Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                  Garfield
                  last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 11:54

                  "more a platform for experimenting with tools."

                  That's exactly what I was planning - to experiment with tools but my needs for a large format printer exceeded my patience to wait - I have projects parked waiting on a larger print area. When I got into printing it was a means to an end, it was just a tool that has ultimately morphed into other unanticipated interests. I'm actually not interested in multicolor 3D printing - I've no need for it as I don't make ornaments or toys.

                  My need is forr light CNC, PCB creation and 3D parts / components - to do this all in one package would be utopia but I'll be building a dedicated CNC this year now, I may re-look at the E3D machine again but it won't be this year now.

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                    Garfield @Danal
                    last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 12:01

                    @Danal : That Jubilee is a nice machine - not sure I like the belts above the frame, I'd be interested to see how cable management is handled

                    (I'm still struggling with it - it would be nice to supply comms and power to the hot end / tool head and have the brains drive it i.e. no rats nest requiring humungous cable chains or supports)

                    I do wish that I'd gone down the total DIY route instead of basing on somebody else's kit of parts - I need to consider whether I'm too heavily invested to scrap and start again ...

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                      Danal @Garfield
                      last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 13:11

                      @Garfield said in 3 x Z-Axis - Idea vs Engineering reality:

                      supply comms and power to the hot end / tool head

                      I.E. tool board. Which is where this discussion started 🙂

                      Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                        Danal
                        last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 13:12

                        Cable management for tools.

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                        Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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