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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
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      They copied the Ender 3 so completely they even got the bad belt arrangements. Nice. Totally negligible for such a short axis, but still...

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      • DocTruckerundefined
        DocTrucker @Phaedrux
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        @Phaedrux there is something ironic about a western company copying an eastern one like that!

        Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
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          Well I guess they didn't copy it completely. The base has a square frame, whereas the Ender has a cross shape.

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          • DocTruckerundefined
            DocTrucker
            last edited by DocTrucker

            CR10?

            I made a similar mistake on my y-axis belt line in an early version of my flavour of the P3Steels. I went and calculated the effect it had and was surprised how little it was. Fixed it all the time as watching the machine run with the belt angle waving at me was like listening to a bearing squeaking its way toward not being a bearing any more! 😄

            Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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            • Phaedruxundefined
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              Ah yes, the Cr10 has a square base.

              Actually I wouldn't be surprised if they were just upgraded CR10s. The secret sauce is the mixing hotend and maestro anyway. Hard to break new ground on an i3 design these days.

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              • DocTruckerundefined
                DocTrucker
                last edited by DocTrucker

                My next P3Steel build is underway at the moment and ideas are brewing for the final pile of bits that I haven't completed. Belt z (not particularly original!) was one thought, but last thought was Core XZ (slightly fewer of these), but need to look very closely at resolution and drop on power down.

                I was wondering the same thing (regarding buying in and building on Creality machines). Tidy markup if so, but I guess creality have cut price with both having a very wide quality control and buying from suppliers that employ similar techniques. Therefore I bet someone building on their machines would buy 10 and get 7 or 8 usable machines worth of parts!

                Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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                • Danalundefined
                  Danal
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                  Well, sure enough, the bed connection is just a blown mosfet waiting to happen. I think I'm just going to put a couple of coats of "liquid tape" on that area.

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                  • Danalundefined
                    Danal
                    last edited by Danal

                    Also, the eccentric on the carriage couldn't be tightened. The bracket is bent, "spreading" the wheels apart. The eccentric wheel mounts it that tab that is sticking down, bent.

                    Easy enough to bend back... but... the way it was all packed, there's no way this happened in shipping. Very poor QC.

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                    • DocTruckerundefined
                      DocTrucker
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                      Does it look like a modified Creality in the flesh? Isn't that machine supposed to retail at $1k+?

                      Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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                      • Danalundefined
                        Danal @DocTrucker
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                        @DocTrucker said in To my surprise, my Crane Quad just shipped...:

                        Does it look like a modified Creality in the flesh? Isn't that machine supposed to retail at $1k+?

                        Yeah, if you didn't pre-fund, they are $750.

                        Creality looking? Sort of. I have an S10 that I bought to evaluate for a friend. In my eyes, that S10 (with dual Z) was an OK printer, particularly with upgraded firmware. It did/does produce reasonably decent prints. About is only downside is a long-ish bowden.

                        The Crane Quad is loosely similar, but much flimsier and cheaper looking/feeling. All 3 wheel with eccentric, but the two wheel side spacing is minimal, and even when properly adjusted, there is still not a lot of rigidity. Classic bottom frame with inverted U arch, and absolutely no bracing, just some cap head screws joining that 90. No belt tensioners. And so forth. Just incredibly cheap all the way around.

                        If anyone wants to experiment with the Quad head, I'd recommend getting just the head and mounting it on whatever platform you have laying around.

                        It is driven by a Duet Maestro, and I can post the config.g. I haven't looked at that config yet; still, I'm sure we can make almost any Duet (with enough drivers) work.

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                        • Dougal1957undefined
                          Dougal1957 @Danal
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                          @Danal I have seen some of the M3D Configs and boy there arn't half hard to follow it was like they separated each part into a macro and just called them from the Config.g which means a lot of jumping between files to see what's actually happening.

                          Also make sure of your mixing ratio's when you get to use it I too know of at least one person who had one of the heads explode on them due to getting it wrong.

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                          • l0rdv8rundefined
                            l0rdv8r
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                            I have a Crane Quad at work... One of my jobs is to manage a collaboration space/maker space and I purchased the crane quad to go in there.... It has NEVER worked.... I have gone through 2 quad heads and taken the head apart screw by screw at least a dozen times and have yet to have a successful print of any kind, CMYK or plain filament. The plastic sleeve inside the hotend is a joke and never stays aligned with the 4 holes in the hotend causing jams. Hopefully your experience with the Crane Quad is better than mine. I just installed a Bowden Single extruder and reconfigured the Duet 2 Maestro and am now dialing in a Cura profile for it...

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                              • Danalundefined
                                Danal
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                                Yah, I pretty much wrote off the money the day I sent it. I thought it was 50/50 that it would ever ship... surprise, it did!

                                So, at this point, I have to manage the time I sink into it.

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                                • l0rdv8rundefined
                                  l0rdv8r @Danal
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                                  @Danal I put quite a bit of time and effort into getting the quad to print as a quad and just could never get it to work right. It was at that point that i decided that instead of writing the entire thing off as a waste that i would convert it to a Bowden Single Extruder and re-program the duet. After doing that, i'm pretty happy with it. It's quiet and efficient, and working which is a plus lol.

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