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    • A Former User?
      A Former User
      last edited by

      I am trying to find some info on how to wire and configure an emergency endstop button on my CNC. I found this file but it applies to the duet wifi.https://learn.ooznest.co.uk/Guide/How+To+Connect+Emergency+Stop+Button/25 What pins should I use to connect the emergency stop button or is it best to just run it between the power supply and the duet board killing all the power.

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      • Danalundefined
        Danal
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        Kill the power.

        This will start a flaming debate... but... anything that hits a pin is still dependent to some degree or another on the firmware.

        Kill the power. Or nuke it from orbit. It is the only way to be sure.

        Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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        • A Former User?
          A Former User @Danal
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          @Danal so your just saying wire it between the power supply and duet?

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          • Danalundefined
            Danal
            last edited by

            Yes. If you have multiple, wire them in a Normally Closed loop.

            Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              Yup.

              https://www.mcmaster.com/kill-switches

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              • Iandayenundefined
                Iandayen
                last edited by Iandayen

                I am an electrical, instrumentation and controls engineer. I design controls and automation systems in industrial and oil and gas industries for a living.

                Your emergency stop ALWAYS cuts power.

                You can have safety stops that use some sensor and stop the process in the programming, but the physical E-Stop buttons are always wired in series with the power to just shut it all down.

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                • A Former User?
                  A Former User @Iandayen
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                  @Iandayen so if I wire it between my power supply and the duet board that will be sufficient or are you saying it needs to even kill the power supply?

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                  • deckingmanundefined
                    deckingman @A Former User
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                    @chichirod On the basis that if a PSU burst into flames (albeit however unlikely that may be), that would constitute an emergency, therefore an emergency stop should cut the power to the PSU.

                    Ian
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                    • A Former User?
                      A Former User @deckingman
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                      @deckingman Ah crap, that makes sense. Ok

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                      • A Former User?
                        A Former User
                        last edited by

                        Depending on the capacitance in the PSU it could leave the machine running longer as well, trade off unless you use a dual pole switch maybe.

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                        • Danalundefined
                          Danal
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                          Both. A true e-stop needs to cut low voltage instantly, so that all machine motion stops, and/or attempts to move (i.e. crush pressure) stop. In addition, it should open a contactor, relay, or SSR, or whatever, on the 'mains' feed into the Power Supply.

                          Having said that, my CNC estops (plural, it is a big machine) are 'normally closed loop' wired to the low voltage supply to the controller board. They stop the machine instantly when hit (standard red mushroom mechanically latched).

                          If I have a power supply issue, I will hit a mushroom and then pull or kick the wall plug. I'm not saying this is best practice... I'm just saying that's the compromise/balance point where I am comfortable.

                          Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                          • gtj0undefined
                            gtj0
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                            My EPO setup has the locking mushroom connected to the reset header on the Duet3. When it latches, the Duet3's processor immediately stops so it's not software dependent and since I also control my 24v PSU from the Duet3's ATX pin, the mains input to the PSU is also cut. As long as the reset pins are shorted, the processor will stay halted. On the same control box, I also have a toggle switch that can immediately cut the 5V to the Duet3 in the event I really need to power cycle it.

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