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    Dougal1957
    last edited by 6 Apr 2017, 06:00

    S3D i seem to remember allows you to print a model useing different process that can change by layer count so if i am correct (and I may not be) you could define a process for the first however many layer with the lower Acc/Jerk setting's in the start script and then change to process2 for subsequent layer which will reset the Acc/Jerk again with the Start script for that process.

    This will need a bit of research but think it would be feasable.

    Doug

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      dc42 administrators
      last edited by 6 Apr 2017, 06:55

      @ScotY:

      So, I start the print and it goes nice and slow. Once the small circles are done, I hit the macro and it speeds up…great! But, like DjDemonD mentioned, on corners and starts and stops, it seems like it extrudes too much plastic. It seems like the extruder thinks the print head is moving at normal speed but in fact, it's slowing down around the corners. Is there a setting in S3D that would fix this? I'm assuming it's a slicer issue?

      Have you tried enabling pressure advance in RRF?

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        DjDemonD
        last edited by 6 Apr 2017, 08:03

        @ThePigSlayer:

        If I am printing something which has small holes that need to be close to the exact model dimension, I switch over to the Prusa edition of Slic3r.

        Slic3r has a speed setting called "small perimeters" and basically any small hole (radius less than 6.5mm) will use whatever speed I set, which is usually 10-15mm/sec, and then I can keep my outline speed high and not have to ruin my print times, or find work arounds like above.

        I like s3d, but I wouldn't pay 140 dollars for it. It lacks too many basic features, so I find myself having to switch between slicers every now and then.

        Fantastic information - I am very much into slic3r prusa edition right now, its like slic3r but it works. This is an excellent feature which I did not know about and will try as soon as possible its a much neater solution than my jerk/accel idea.

        However to the OP I would consider a jerk value around 800-1200 to be "normal".

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          dc42 administrators
          last edited by 6 Apr 2017, 08:46

          I agree, the "small perimeters" speed in slic3r was very useful, and I miss it in S3D. I gave up on slic3r because it kept crashing, but perhaps I should try the Prusa edition.

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            DjDemonD
            last edited by 6 Apr 2017, 09:43

            The windows version I am using crashes around 10 times less often, it loads faster and it slices faster too, and I've been sending in bug reports which do get attention and fixes within a week or so, so its in active development.

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              ThePigSlayer
              last edited by 10 Apr 2017, 06:23

              Im glad I could provide some useful information!

              Prusa was trying to work together with someone from the original slic3r, but apparently that slowed development too much so he created his own branch. Recently the original slic3r has been getting updates, but I still found it was crashing too often, and the Prusa edition has some cool features like variable layer height and is updated more frequently.

              dc42, I had the same problem, loved slic3r but the constant crashing led me to s3d. I tried the Prusa edition a few months ago, and I have been using it ever since (I use both slic3r and s3d now) without a single crash.

              It's becoming embarrassing what s3d lacks, I really wish they would start releasing major updates again.

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                DjDemonD
                last edited by 10 Apr 2017, 09:16

                Okay so im running prusa slic3r 1.34 and cannot see the "small perimeters" options anywhere. There is an "external perimeters", and "perimeters"….. Where should I be looking?

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                  Merlin
                  last edited by 10 Apr 2017, 11:18

                  try using dimafix, expensive but does the job.
                  recommended to me by T3P3

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                    deckingman
                    last edited by 10 Apr 2017, 17:52

                    @DjDemonD:

                    Okay so im running prusa slic3r 1.34 and cannot see the "small perimeters" options anywhere. There is an "external perimeters", and "perimeters"….. Where should I be looking?

                    That sounds like it's either been moved or dropped. I'm still on Prusa edition 1.31.5 and "Small Perimeters" are between "Perimeters" and "External Perimeters" (same as Slic3R 1.2.9).

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                      Nuffe
                      last edited by 10 Apr 2017, 19:57

                      @deckingman:

                      @DjDemonD:

                      Okay so im running prusa slic3r 1.34 and cannot see the "small perimeters" options anywhere. There is an "external perimeters", and "perimeters"….. Where should I be looking?

                      That sounds like it's either been moved or dropped. I'm still on Prusa edition 1.31.5 and "Small Perimeters" are between "Perimeters" and "External Perimeters" (same as Slic3R 1.2.9).

                      I am on 1.34.0 and I have small perimeters speed setting.

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                        Dougal1957
                        last edited by 10 Apr 2017, 20:03

                        Where is it then I can't find it in 1.34.1

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                          Nuffe
                          last edited by 10 Apr 2017, 21:07

                          I just installed 1.34.1. It is there too. "Print Settings->Speed"

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                            Neotko
                            last edited by 12 Apr 2017, 06:29

                            Using this scripting process you could make outside lines to have special accel/jerk and keep the non visible prts at max speed

                            https://ultimaker.com/en/community/40307-simplify3d-fans-only-on-perimeters?page=last

                            Juat read the scripting and add the gcodes for each part

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