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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      If you have a resistor with a value in the range 2 to 10 ohms, you could temporarily connect that between VSSA and ground instead of the fuse. Space it well off the board, because it will burn up if you get a short between VSSA and VIN - which may be what caused the VSSA fuse to blow.

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      • clearlynotstefundefined
        clearlynotstef
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        Personally I used a tube fuse and little holder thing, but you could even solder directly to the fuse if you could get one of them. There's gotta be someplace still selling standard fuses online near you

        https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00X7B6FPI/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_TyFIEb1C2DN29

        https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VLBAF84/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_bFFIEbQQWNZKN

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        • weputundefined
          weput
          last edited by

          ok guys...

          we are still in lock down so no luck to getting the fuse or the resistors...

          (im fine as i have another printer running...)

          Anyways, I'm thinking on breaking one of those x-mast decoration light cords (the ones that comes with like 150 small bulbs wired in series) to use one incandescent bulb... its a low resistive lineal load and if something happens it should manage the power by emitting light...

          .,.. then i recalled i have a few small led's laying around... technically the same principle with the 0.7v drop.... anyways,

          here im asking.. what do you think?

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          • A Former User?
            A Former User
            last edited by

            is there not a gas station or anything like that you can get a fuse from? (they might not have very small values though, but might for motor cycles)

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            • weputundefined
              weput @A Former User
              last edited by

              @bearer said in Error on Thermistors:

              is there not a gas station or anything like that you can get a fuse from? (they might not have very small values though, but might for motor cycles)

              the smaller they had was 10 amps... the fuse should be rated for 100mA... max 200

              way too much current.

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              • weputundefined
                weput
                last edited by

                Just to let you know guys (assuming you care)

                i pull out a potenciometer from my electric guitar... so the printer is going to be running soon.

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @weput
                  last edited by

                  @weput said in Error on Thermistors:

                  ok guys...

                  we are still in lock down so no luck to getting the fuse or the resistors...

                  (im fine as i have another printer running...)

                  Anyways, I'm thinking on breaking one of those x-mast decoration light cords (the ones that comes with like 150 small bulbs wired in series) to use one incandescent bulb... its a low resistive lineal load and if something happens it should manage the power by emitting light...

                  .,.. then i recalled i have a few small led's laying around... technically the same principle with the 0.7v drop.... anyways,

                  here im asking.. what do you think?

                  The incandescent bulb should work.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                  • weputundefined
                    weput @dc42
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                    @dc42 (y)

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                    • weputundefined
                      weput
                      last edited by

                      funny...

                      i was about to place the fuse... but because i had to remove the cables i had fro the potensiometer...

                      ... checked the continuity and happens that the original fuse has continuity.

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                      • weputundefined
                        weput
                        last edited by

                        stupid question...
                        what is the actual resistance i should measure between vssa and gnd?

                        the thermistors are oscilating way too much...

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                          A Former User @weput
                          last edited by

                          @weput pretty much 0, single digit omhs at most.

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                          • weputundefined
                            weput
                            last edited by

                            my small ohmmeter is a cheap old analog type...10ohm and 1k selector...

                            resistance was 8~9 ohms if this is ok.

                            I'm leaning towards to replace the fuse.

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                              A Former User @weput
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                              @weput said in Error on Thermistors:

                              8~9 ohm

                              datasheet for the replacement part suggest 0.6 to 2.5 ohm, but early boards could use a different part.

                              do you get a 0 reading if you touch the probes together?

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                              • weputundefined
                                weput
                                last edited by

                                @bearer said in Error on Thermistors:

                                touch

                                let me check...

                                do you want me to measure the resistance on the thermistor connection?

                                by the way, this is the temp reading i have.Capture.PNG

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                                  A Former User @weput
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                                  @weput said in Error on Thermistors:

                                  do you want me to measure the resistance on the thermistor connection?

                                  no, just measure the resistance from the red probe straight to the black probe, to check if the meter will give you a reading of 0 when the resistance should be 0.

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                                  • weputundefined
                                    weput
                                    last edited by

                                    the ohmimeteris fine.

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                                    • A Former User?
                                      A Former User @weput
                                      last edited by

                                      I'd expect a larger value for it to be the cause, on the other hand if it worked with the workaround (lightbulb or resistance?) then the fuse is what remains - if you have the spare then just replace it.

                                      (OR solder the new on top of the old, should be less risk of damage to the board)

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                                      • weputundefined
                                        weput
                                        last edited by

                                        yes thats what im gonna do... (tomorrow).

                                        my eyesight is kinda tired... yes, im getting old.

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                                        • weputundefined
                                          weput
                                          last edited by

                                          this bellfuse is definitely bigger than the one that was installed.

                                          104587747_1200752116933780_1962497025036173231_n.jpg

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                                          • weputundefined
                                            weput
                                            last edited by

                                            assuming you guys care...

                                            definitely the fuse was faulty... it measured around 13ohms when measured off the board... but the part was really tiny... who knows.

                                            the belfuse was dead zero... I placed it on the back as shown on the dozuki link provided... still pending the 10kohm resistor...

                                            anyways, this is my temp reading graph now.
                                            Capture.PNG

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