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    • Kolbiundefined
      Kolbi @fcwilt
      last edited by

      @fcwilt Thanks for that info. Could you achieve the same thing by use of start.g? If not the same because timing with regards of being called by the slicer, what does your start.g contain?

      Many thanks,
      Kolbi

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @Kolbi
        last edited by

        @Kolbi said in Automatic Bed Leveling with Conditional Gcode Iterations:

        @fcwilt Thanks for that info. Could you achieve the same thing by use of start.g? If not the same because timing with regards of being called by the slicer, what does your start.g contain?

        Many thanks,
        Kolbi

        I haven't gotten around to determining exactly when start.g executes, just too many things on my plate.

        My current system works but I imagine converting it to rely on start.g would not be a problem.

        Frederick

        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • Kolbiundefined
          Kolbi @fcwilt
          last edited by

          @fcwilt said in Automatic Bed Leveling with Conditional Gcode Iterations:

          too many things on my plate

          I totally understand that. Thanks again for sharing all the info.

          Cheers,
          Kolbi

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          • Kolbiundefined
            Kolbi
            last edited by

            I updated the first initial post to give a 'bottom line up front', the two efficient ways that were created to level the gantry, for ease of use.

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @Kolbi
              last edited by fcwilt

              @Kolbi

              Hi,

              Normally I invoke PRINT_BEGIN.g and PRINT_END.g from within the slicer using whatever feature the slicer provides.

              START.g was called before the call to PRINT_BEGIN.g. That seems to happen automatically without any action on part of Simply3D (S3D).

              PRINT_BEGIN.g was called because I invoked it within S3D in the "Starting Script" option on the "Scripts" tab.

              STOP.g was not called at all. It seems the slicer must insert a M0 command at the end of the print to invoke STOP.g.

              PRINT_END.g was called because I invoked it within S3D in the "Ending Script" option on the "Scripts" tab.

              Since I want a "end of print" macro to execute, without a way to force the slicer to include M0 at the end I will stick with the "Script" options and invoke PRINT_BEGIN.g and PRINT_END.g

              If would be nice if START.g and STOP.g would execute without any action on the part of the slicer. Then I could dispense with insuring the slicer invokes PRINT_BEGIN.g and PRINT_END.g

              Frederick

              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • Kolbiundefined
                Kolbi
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                @fcwilt I understand, thanks!

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                • A Former User?
                  A Former User
                  last edited by

                  there is also this overview https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Macros#Section_System_Macros

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @A Former User
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                    @bearer said in Automatic Bed Leveling with Conditional Gcode Iterations:

                    there is also this overview https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Macros#Section_System_Macros

                    Thanks - I had not seen that.

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                      I use start.g for general print prep. Homing, preheat. Then it passes off to the slicer for setting the temps for the print. Then in the slicer start gcode section it calls a macro to print a prime line and then start the print. I do it this way so that the prime line is printed at the right temp for the material being used.

                      The slicer end gcode just contains M0 and then stop.g has all of the actual end of print commands.

                      I kind of wish there was just an end.g that could take the place of M0 -> stop.g

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @Phaedrux
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                        @Phaedrux said in Automatic Bed Leveling with Conditional Gcode Iterations:

                        Then it passes off to the slicer for setting the temps for the print.

                        As you may have noticed in my print_begin.g macro I rely on the filament feature to set bed/filament temps.

                        I do wait for the temps to be reached before starting to print. I don't know what a "prime line" is - I just print a 2 line skirt so I can watch to see how the first layer is going down and adjust baby-stepping or abort, as needed.

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator @fcwilt
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                          @fcwilt said in Automatic Bed Leveling with Conditional Gcode Iterations:

                          "prime line"

                          In my case:

                          ;M98 P"0:/sys/PrimeNozzle.g"
                          
                          G90 			; Absolute positioning
                          G1 X1 Y270 F6000 	; Move to rear left corner
                          M400 			; clear movement buffer
                          M116 			; Wait for temps
                          G1 Z0.3 F100		; Move Z to prime height
                          G91 			; Relative positioning
                          M83 			; Relative extrusion
                          G1 X40 E10 F300 	; Prime nozzle
                          G10			; Retract
                          G1 Y-1 X1 F10000 	; Wipe nozzle
                          M400
                          

                          And start.g since we're being transparent.

                          M106 P2 F30000 S0.5 H-1 C"Duet Fans"
                          M140 S65		; set heated bed to 65 and release
                          T0			; Select Tool 0
                          M291 P"Print Started. Preheating and Homing." T10
                          G4 S1
                          M98 P"0:/macros/Musical Tunes/LuckyTune.g" ; Lucky tune to start print off on the right foot
                          G4 S1
                          M220 S100		; Set speed factor back to 100% in case it was changed
                          M221 S100		; Set extrusion factor back to 100% in case it was changed
                          M290 R0 S0		; clear babystepping
                          M106 S0			; Turn part cooling blower off if it is on
                          G10 P0 R0 S80		; Set extruder to 80 and release
                          M190 S65		; set heated bed to 65 and wait
                          G28			; home XYZ
                          G29 S1			; load heightmap
                          M400
                          G10 P0 R80 S180	; Set extruder to 180 and release
                          M98 P"0:/sys/ZSpeedsPrint.g"	; Load Z speeds for printing
                          M98 P"0:/sys/CurrentsPrint.g"	; Load print motor currents
                          
                          ; Slicer Start Gcode begins.
                          

                          and stop.g for the hell of it.

                          ; stop.g
                          ; called when M0 (Stop) is run (e.g. when a print from SD card is cancelled)
                          ; Also called by slicer end gcode by M0
                          ;
                          M400			; Finish move queue
                          M104 S0 		; Extruder heater off
                          M140 S0 		; Bed heater off
                          M106 S255 		; Fan at 100 to cool nozzle and bed
                          G91			; Relative positioning
                          M220 S100		; Set speed factor back to 100% in case it was changed
                          M221 S100		; Set extrusion factor back to 100% in case it was changed
                          G1 E-2 F9000			; Retract filament 2mm
                          G1 X5 Y5 F9000		; Wipe nozzle 
                          G1 Z20 F500			; raise nozzle 5mm from printed part
                          G90				; absolute positioning
                          G1 X150 Y130 F6000		; Move x and Y axis over to bed center so probe is on top of bed
                          ;M104 S35		; Set hot end low and wait
                          G4 S60			; Wait 5 minutes
                          ;M116			; wait for temp to drop
                          G28 X Y			; Home X and Y
                          G28 X Y			; Home it again, Sam.
                          M290 R0 S0		; clear babystepping
                          M84			; Steppers off
                          M98 P"ZSpeedsNormal.g"	; Load normal z speed settings again.
                          M106 S0			; Fan off
                          M106 P2 F30000 L0.1 X0.8 B0.5 T35:70 H100:101:102 C"Duet Fans"
                          
                          ;Play a little beep beep beep to show print ended.
                          M400			; Clear queue again before jingle
                          G4 S1
                          M300 P250 S750
                          G4 P251
                          M300 P200 S1250
                          G4 P201
                          M300 P250 S750
                          G4 P251
                          M300 P200 S1250
                          G4 P201
                          M300 P250 S2500
                          G4 P251
                          M300 P150 S2000
                          G4 P151
                          M300 P150 S2500
                          G4 P151
                          M300 P350 S3700
                          G4 P351
                          

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                          • Kolbiundefined
                            Kolbi @Phaedrux
                            last edited by

                            @Phaedrux Thanks for sharing. Do you use filament/config.g or just use slicer start code?

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @Kolbi
                              last edited by

                              @Kolbi said in Automatic Bed Leveling with Conditional Gcode Iterations:

                              @Phaedrux Thanks for sharing. Do you use filament/config.g or just use slicer start code?

                              I haven't used the filaments function for a long time. I use prusa slicer and cura interchangeably. I use prusa slicer for the filaments library and refer to it when I'm setting up a print in Cura.

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                              • Kolbiundefined
                                Kolbi
                                last edited by Kolbi

                                @Phaedrux As of thus far, me too. For some reason, it feels a bit to foreign to me to offload stuff from the slicer's start and end code spots. I do plan to slowly start migrating stuff over but only after I have everything else on point.

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                                • Kolbiundefined
                                  Kolbi
                                  last edited by Kolbi

                                  @Phaedrux For prime line I made a crude random(ish) number generator to not get a 'prime line gutter' on my plates. It gives a numeric swing of 9 to -9.

                                  floor(10*(cos(sqrt(sensors.analog[0].lastReading * state.upTime))))
                                  

                                  So for the prime line, it would be (using Y as an example / with a .1mm randomness, targeted at -2):

                                  Before:
                                  G1 X0 Z0.6 Y-3.0 F3000.0;
                                  
                                  After:
                                  G1 X0 Z0.6 Y{-2+(0.1*(floor(10*(cos(sqrt(sensors.analog[0].lastReading * state.upTime))))))} F3000.0;
                                  

                                  So my use is to have the M98 P"0:/sys/PrimeLine.g" called after temps are set and obtained by the slicer's gcode.

                                  ;M98 P"0:/sys/PrimeLine.g"
                                  ;This sets up the prime to be initiated at a 'randomized' Y positon from -1.1 to -2.9
                                  G1 X0 Z0.6 Y{-2+(0.1*(floor(10*(cos(sqrt(sensors.analog[0].lastReading * state.upTime))))))} F3000.0;
                                  G92 E0.0
                                  G1 Z0.2 X100.0 E30.0 F1000.0 ; prime line
                                  G92 E0.0
                                  
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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt @Kolbi
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                                    @Kolbi said in Automatic Bed Leveling with Conditional Gcode Iterations:

                                    For some reason, it feels a bit to foreign to me to offload stuff from the slicer's start and end code spots.

                                    My goal was to have as little filament related items (like temps) in the slicer since I hoped to avoid going back to the slicer to generate a new gcode file just to change a temp.

                                    So far that approach is working for me.

                                    YMMV.

                                    Good luck.

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    • Kolbiundefined
                                      Kolbi @fcwilt
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                                      @fcwilt That is my eventual goal also, but because from within the slicer - I use inner-slicer variables, that portion would get somewhat lost?
                                      I'm slowly brain-storming different ways to skin-the-cat, but as of this moment, it feels like I happen to be dealing with skinning Schrödinger's cat.

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                                      • fcwiltundefined
                                        fcwilt @Kolbi
                                        last edited by

                                        @Kolbi said in Automatic Bed Leveling with Conditional Gcode Iterations:

                                        @fcwilt I use inner-slicer variables, that portion would get somewhat lost?

                                        I have not found that to be a problem - yet. What variables do you use?

                                        I'm slowly brain-storming different ways to skin-the-cat, but as of this moment, it feels like I happen to be dealing with skinning Schrödinger's cat.

                                        Hard to skin a cat that won't stay in one place.

                                        Frederick

                                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                        • Kolbiundefined
                                          Kolbi
                                          last edited by Kolbi

                                          @fcwilt said in Automatic Bed Leveling with Conditional Gcode Iterations:

                                          What variables do you use

                                          Mostly the temps for hotend and bed.
                                          While I do use the filament option in duet/dwc to get me to the overall-generic temp for the chosen/loaded filament type, I still use the slicer to vary the temps for each different brand/batch of the filament within the choose type range. I'll most likely use the start.g script to do most of the setup and prime line, then the slicer start-gcode could bring the temps to the exact settings, and then start printing. This would simplify switch between slicers and give a one-stop-shop to adjust the starting sequence as needed.

                                          Cheers,
                                          Kolbi

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                                          • fcwiltundefined
                                            fcwilt @Kolbi
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                                            @Kolbi

                                            Thanks for the info.

                                            I make an filament entry in the DWC for each filament brand/kind/color that I find needs different settings. Currently the settings that I control in the config file for each filament are the temps and the extrusion multiplier.

                                            My goal was to allow using different slicers with as little duplication as possible by moving what I can to the Duet.

                                            In the three slicers I use they each call two macros "print_begin.g" and "print_end.g"

                                            I tried using start.g but it is called before the slicers set temps whereas the locations in the slicer to call "print_begin.g" happen just before the gcode that actually prints the object. So my filament config files get to override any slicer temp settings.

                                            Frederick

                                            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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