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    • Carloundefined
      Carlo @Lakeman
      last edited by

      @Lakeman
      Leave it @ Z-0.3

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      • Lakemanundefined
        Lakeman
        last edited by

        Especially on the bottom you can see that it is scraping the bed on the right, and half a cm next to it it comes off. I wanted to finish this layer, because this will continue untill the layers next to each other have that difference, but it started pulling everything off.

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti
          last edited by

          can you post the picture of the mesh bed?

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          • Carloundefined
            Carlo @Lakeman
            last edited by

            @Lakeman
            I have the same printer as you and had similar issues ..unless you have a mechanical issue
            its in the setup which carriages are you using for the mag conversion ?

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            • Lakemanundefined
              Lakeman
              last edited by Lakeman

              This is with mag conversion.
              level.JPG

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              • Carloundefined
                Carlo @Lakeman
                last edited by

                @Lakeman

                can you post a complete image with deviation on the right and more side on?

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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti
                  last edited by

                  have you tried 8 factor calibration instead of 6?

                  change S6 to S8 in bed.g

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                  • Carloundefined
                    Carlo @Carlo
                    last edited by

                    @Carlo

                    What length is on the stickers on the arms from Haydn?

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                    • Lakemanundefined
                      Lakeman
                      last edited by

                      3d printed the conversion as per thingiverse, and 440.47
                      How did you solve the issues on your printer?
                      arms.jpg

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                      • Carloundefined
                        Carlo @Lakeman
                        last edited by Carlo

                        @Lakeman
                        Same length as mine, by doing what I suggesting you do
                        Ok but you have 3 diff lengths for the arms then so you must have done a Factor 7 in your bed as it changed the length of the arms so copy your M307 to your config.g delete config-override and have you made the changes to feedrate etc and tried calibration again with ;M501 in config.g ?
                        Also is it a Volcano your using and a clean nozzle?

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                        • Lakemanundefined
                          Lakeman
                          last edited by

                          Oke, changed the config file, deleted config override. Put S8 in the bed.g.
                          Heated to 60/120 (had to reset the bed heating several times because it was going to slow, but looked normal... ?) Anyway, after that did a delta calibration.
                          G32
                          Calibrated 8 factors using 16 points, (mean, deviation) before (-0.201, 0.639) after (0.000, 0.062)
                          Then mesh compensation with sensitivity M672 S105:30:225 (to many false readings before)
                          G29
                          121 points probed, min error -0.146, max error 0.138, mean -0.014, deviation 0.059
                          Height map saved to file 0:/sys/heightmap.csv (lookes the same as picture before ;))

                          Started printing and have the same results, with the same high and low spots.

                          I do not really understand what you are saying about the 3 different lengths and a factor 7 in the bed?

                          Config:
                          ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
                          ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                          ;
                          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Mon Aug 03 2020 16:16:44 GMT+0200 (Midden-Europese zomertijd)

                          ; General preferences
                          G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                          M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                          M550 P"Predator" ; set printer name
                          M665 R227.9 L440.48 B185 H418.879 X0.217 Y0.125 Z0 ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
                          M666 X0 Y0 Z0 ; put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them

                          ; Network
                          M552 S1 ; enable network
                          M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                          M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
                          M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

                          ; Drives
                          M569 P0 S0 ; physical drive 0 goes backwards
                          M569 P1 S0 ; physical drive 1 goes backwards
                          M569 P2 S0 ; physical drive 2 goes backwards
                          M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                          M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
                          M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                          M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z80.00 E400.00 ; set steps per mm
                          M566 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z1200.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                          M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z18000.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                          M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E1000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                          M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                          M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                          ; Axis Limits
                          M208 Z-0.3 S1 ; set minimum Z

                          ; Endstops
                          M574 X2 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for high end on X via pin xstop
                          M574 Y2 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for high end on Y via pin ystop
                          M574 Z2 S1 P"zstop" ; configure active-high endstop for high end on Z via pin zstop

                          ; Z-Probe
                          M558 P8 C"zprobe.in+zprobe.mod" R0.4 H3 F1200 T6000 ; set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
                          G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.1 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                          M557 R185 S30 ; define mesh grid

                          ; Heaters
                          M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                          M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                          M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                          M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                          M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                          M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                          M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                          M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                          M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit

                          ; Fans
                          M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                          M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                          M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                          M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

                          ; Tools
                          M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                          G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                          ; Custom settings are not defined

                          ; Miscellaneous
                          M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
                          ;M501 ;should save my data after calibration without homing.

                          ; bed.g
                          ; called to perform automatic delta calibration via G32
                          ;
                          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.3 on Sat Dec 07 2019 21:21:10 GMT+0100 (Midden-Europese standaardtijd)
                          M561 ; clear any bed transform
                          ; Probe the bed at 6 peripheral and 6 halfway points, and perform 6-factor auto compensation
                          ; Before running this, you should have set up your Z-probe trigger height to suit your build, in the G31 command in config.g.
                          G30 P0 X0.00 Y185.00 Z-99999 H0
                          G30 P1 X118.92 Y141.72 Z-99999 H0
                          G30 P2 X182.19 Y32.12 Z-99999 H0
                          G30 P3 X160.21 Y-92.50 Z-99999 H0
                          G30 P4 X63.27 Y-173.84 Z-99999 H0
                          G30 P5 X-63.27 Y-173.84 Z-99999 H0
                          G30 P6 X-160.21 Y-92.50 Z-99999 H0
                          G30 P7 X-182.19 Y32.12 Z-99999 H0
                          G30 P8 X-118.92 Y141.72 Z-99999 H0
                          G30 P9 X0.00 Y92.50 Z-99999 H0
                          G30 P10 X80.11 Y46.25 Z-99999 H0
                          G30 P11 X80.11 Y-46.25 Z-99999 H0
                          G30 P12 X0.00 Y-92.50 Z-99999 H0
                          G30 P13 X-80.11 Y-46.25 Z-99999 H0
                          G30 P14 X-80.11 Y46.25 Z-99999 H0
                          G30 P15 X0 Y0 Z-99999 S8
                          ; Use S-1 for measurements only, without calculations. Use S4 for endstop heights and Z-height only. Use S6 for full 6 factors
                          ; If your Z probe has significantly different trigger heights depending on XY position, adjust the H parameters in the G30 commands accordingly. The value of each H parameter should be (trigger height at that XY position) - (trigger height at centre of bed)

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                          • Carloundefined
                            Carlo @Lakeman
                            last edited by Carlo

                            @Lakeman
                            So in your config.g M665 L=440.48 in config-overrride.g it was L440.50 but actual is L440.47
                            Did you redo G29 ? new height map
                            Almost all delta users do a delta calibration before a print
                            Change S8 - S6
                            Are you actually enabling G29 S1 to enable mesh in your start gcode or typing it in before print ?

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                            • Lakemanundefined
                              Lakeman
                              last edited by

                              Smart effector with standard e3d hotend

                              hotend.jpg

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                              • Lakemanundefined
                                Lakeman
                                last edited by

                                This was the new height map
                                level.JPG
                                Nozzle is clean, and filament I pulled back 5cm
                                Changed back to S6 in the bed.g
                                Some arms are 440.48 and some .47 So I have to chose, but that difference is minimum. Not sure why it was .50 in the override.
                                Mesh is enabled

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                                • Vetiundefined
                                  Veti
                                  last edited by Veti

                                  @Lakeman said in Smart effector first layer issues:

                                  ;M501 ;should save my data after calibration without homing.

                                  you disabled the overwrite loading

                                  also see
                                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Calibrating_a_delta_printer

                                  what the different factor calibration do. 7 adjusts arm length

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                                  • Lakemanundefined
                                    Lakeman
                                    last edited by

                                    Yes, as in the post above

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                                    • Vetiundefined
                                      Veti
                                      last edited by

                                      have you tried a print with mesh bed leveling disabled?
                                      G29 S2

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                                      • Carloundefined
                                        Carlo @Lakeman
                                        last edited by Carlo

                                        @Lakeman

                                        Height map looks fine
                                        G29 S1 good
                                        Its 440.5 above..

                                        So Height!
                                        heat bed to 60c nozzle hot or not G28, M208 Z-5 slowly lower nozzle to sheet of paper or 0.1mm feeler gauge if you have one don't delta calibrate the Z height should be at Z0.1 if not adjust M665 H so it is Z0.1 remember to add the 0.1 of the gauge/paper to the height for Z0

                                        Also just post you M122 please and M115 for firmware version

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                                        • Lakemanundefined
                                          Lakeman
                                          last edited by

                                          first layer no mesh.jpg
                                          This is with mesh disabled, slightly different, but high and low on almost the same spots

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                                          • Lakemanundefined
                                            Lakeman
                                            last edited by

                                            M122
                                            === Diagnostics ===
                                            RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.1.1 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                                            Board ID: 08DGM-917NK-F23T0-6JKFD-3S86S-9ZB0D
                                            Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (11 max)
                                            === RTOS ===
                                            Static ram: 27980
                                            Dynamic ram: 92980 of which 60 recycled
                                            Exception stack ram used: 472
                                            Never used ram: 9580
                                            Tasks: NETWORK(ready,384) HEAT(blocked,1224) MAIN(running,1824) IDLE(ready,80)
                                            Owned mutexes:
                                            === Platform ===
                                            Last reset 00:00:36 ago, cause: software
                                            Last software reset at 2020-08-25 17:01, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 9372 bytes (slot 2)
                                            Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task MAIN
                                            Error status: 0
                                            MCU temperature: min 34.5, current 35.1, max 35.5
                                            Supply voltage: min 23.8, current 23.9, max 24.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                                            Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max 14/124
                                            Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max 34/152
                                            Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max 0/140
                                            Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                            Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
                                            Date/time: 2020-08-25 17:01:57
                                            Cache data hit count 57819496
                                            Slowest loop: 6.62ms; fastest: 0.14ms
                                            I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                                            === Storage ===
                                            Free file entries: 10
                                            SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                                            SD card longest read time 3.4ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
                                            === Move ===
                                            Hiccups: 0(0), FreeDm: 169, MinFreeDm: 166, MaxWait: 17282ms
                                            Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                                            === MainDDARing ===
                                            Scheduled moves: 5, completed moves: 5, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0 CDDA state: -1
                                            === AuxDDARing ===
                                            Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0 CDDA state: -1
                                            === Heat ===
                                            Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
                                            === GCodes ===
                                            Segments left: 0
                                            Movement lock held by null
                                            HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
                                            Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                                            File is idle in state(s) 0
                                            USB is idle in state(s) 0
                                            Aux is idle in state(s) 0
                                            Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
                                            Queue is idle in state(s) 0
                                            Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                                            Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                                            Code queue is empty.
                                            === Network ===
                                            Slowest loop: 15.71ms; fastest: 0.00ms
                                            Responder states: HTTP(2) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
                                            HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

                                            • WiFi -
                                              Network state is active
                                              WiFi module is connected to access point
                                              Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
                                              WiFi firmware version 1.23
                                              WiFi MAC address ec:fa:bc:02:17:f8
                                              WiFi Vcc 3.46, reset reason Unknown
                                              WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 24608
                                              WiFi IP address 192.168.2.101
                                              WiFi signal strength -71dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                                              Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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