Duet not extruding on x axis and panel due has no screen
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I have to go to work in a little bit but when I get home I will run a new stepped motor wire straight from the extruder to the duet bypassing the cable chain and see if it changes I have two extra connectors and extra pins from the original parts when I got the duet
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Ok so I got home from work and completely removed the motor except for the extruder gear and ran a new jumper from the duet to the motor and it appeared to fix the issues as the gear seemed to run smooth so I guess I'm gonna delete my cable chain altogether because I'm assuming it pinched one of the coil wires I do really appreciate y'alls time helping me with my issue I know y'all are busy people and have always answered my questions super fast I constantly recommend this board to people on the forums I belong too and not just the product but your service behind it but one last question is it possible to run 2 wifi boards or would it be better to run the Ethernet version on the other I'm building a new build it's a long way off from electronics yet but I want to use a duet board on it ?
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It is no problem to run two Duet Wifi boards on the same network, or one Wifi and one Ethernet. Or two Ethernets even.
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The problem with your cable chain probably isn't that the wire is being pinched, it's probably a poor crimp connection at one end, that does or doesn't make contact depending on which way the wire is pulled.
If you put two or more Duets on the same network, they must all have different MAC addresses. The WiFi does this automatically. For the Ethernet you need to use the M540 command in config.g to change all but one of them from the default.
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Glad you got it fixed and yes, as David pointed out, don't give up on the cable chain. It's most unlikely that all the strands of the wire broke somewhere in the middle of the run, but much more likely that it was poor connection at one end.
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Actually I believe I spoke too soon I started everything back up was trying to make sure everything homed and moves like it should and it did then I shut everything down to make sure the bed was still level I fired it back up and the x motor started skipping back and fourth across the rail wildly and no extruder again so I'm at a loss I know all the pins are good I checked them tried swapping motor wires with the y axis cause it seemed ok and tried to move the x again it started jumping around again I have no Idea where to even start now cause it acts perfect then it freaks out and starts weirdness I've tried fighting with it since about 8 pm it's now 3:44 am and it act fine then something will act up sorry for the the trouble but I've ohm'd wires checked connections checked voltages and schematics and it will do what I ask it then I try to repeat and it goes nuts for some reason
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Intermittent faults are always a pain. You haven't mentioned your Panel Due since the first post. Is that working as it should or do you still have problems with that too?
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No the panel due still no screen but I can hear the sound of the buttons being pressed when I touch the screen and the fault isn't internment anymore I tried using the motor cable from one of the z axis motors to the x motor cause I know the z axis moves like it should and nothing anymore x or e motors you can feel them get there holding tourqe but no movement at all I tried using the x motor cable on the z axis to see if it did the same and it moves like it should just fine same with y axis motors
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I've tested a little more and the x axis will move now dont know why its the same motor wire from the y i was testing it with i have the motor out just sitting on the machine same with the e didn't but nothing on e still at all no matter what can't even feel the motor engage to hold it in place
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It's very difficult to diagnose from a distance. I'm wondering if it's a power supply issue. Maybe it's only just able to supply a small amount of power so that when you try to drive one or more motors, the voltage drops. Are you able to measure the voltage at the input terminals of the Duet? Preferably when you try to drive a motor. Also, after you've tried to move the extruder and X axis motor, could you run M122 and post the results of the diagnostics. I, or more likely David, might be able to spot something in that.
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Ok will will measure the terminal voltages and run the M122 command and post the findings to you I will have to do it in just a little bit as I have to finish up an animation so I don't get behind on it but I will do it as soon as possible again thank you
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ok i finished my work and started back looking at the printer i found the problem with the x motor is the cheap cable wire that was supplied with the printer i made a new one with some better wire like i did for the e motor and its working fine again so i ordered quality wire for all the motors (it kinks if you look at it worng) as that too is going to get replaced immediately so that issue is solved wire will be here monday. as for the e motor even with a new cable i get nothing i also remapped to the e1 driver and still got nothing tested with 2 different cables and 2 different motors on both drives same results with both test. i checked the voltage at the duet terminals and it was at 11.99v so the voltage looks good and this was what i got when i ran the M122 command
8:00:34 PMM122
=== Diagnostics ===
Used output buffers: 1 of 32 (4 max)
=== Platform ===
Static ram used: 20320
Dynamic ram used: 72784
Recycled dynamic ram: 1104
Stack ram used: 968 current, 2940 maximum
Never used ram: 33924
Last reset 00:01:22 ago, cause: power up
Last software reset code 0x0003, HFSR 0x00000000, CFSR 0x00000000, ICSR 0x00400000, BFAR 0xe000ed38, SP 0xffffffff
Spinning module during software reset: GCodes, available RAM 33576 bytes (slot 0)
Error status: 0
Free file entries: 10
SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms
MCU temperature: min 32.8, current 37.1, max 40.0
Supply voltage: min 11.9, current 11.9, max 12.3, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0
Driver 0: standstill
Driver 1: standstill
Driver 2: standstill
Driver 3: standstill
Driver 4: standstill
Date/time: 2017-05-20 20:00:34
Slowest main loop (seconds): 0.002307; fastest: 0.000035
=== Move ===
MaxReps: 0, StepErrors: 0, MaxWait: 0ms, Underruns: 0, 0
Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0
Bed compensation in use: none
Bed probe heights: 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
Probe change coordinates:
=== Heat ===
Bed heater = 0, chamber heater = -1
=== GCodes ===
Segments left: 0
Stack records: 1 allocated, 0 in use
Movement lock held by null
http is idle in state(s) 0
telnet is idle in state(s) 0
file is idle in state(s) 0
serial is idle in state(s) 0
aux is idle in state(s) 0
daemon is idle in state(s) 0
queue is idle in state(s) 0
Code queue is empty.
=== Network ===
WiFiServer is running
SPI underruns 0, overruns 0
=== Webserver ===
HTTP sessions: 1 of 8 -
Ok I did get e1 to work for some reason it didn't assign the number in the config g file when I gave the command so I went back and tested both e0 and e1 and e1 works as should e0 nothing but it's still strange because from my understanding of the m122 command it didn't show any fault at least that I read in it
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It looks like you are making progress. Also, I couldn't see anything amiss with the result of M122 (but David might spot something that I haven't - no doubt he will step in if he does see anything amiss). So it's looking like all your issues are down to poor cables or connections. As for the E motor, maybe it's a bad motor? Try swapping it with one that you know works consistently. That will prove it one way or another.
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Yeah I worked out all the other issues mainly cheap Chinese wire but that's going to be fixed and I tried getting the e0 to work but no dice it's printing at the moment on the e1 port I could never get the e0 going
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And I never got the panel due up either but filastuder said they would replace the panel due and the LCD I checked the wires on that one and they are fine (I'm using the premade wire lead that was optional ) so that will be fixed as well so everything seems good just that e0 but I only use one extruder
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As I said, try swapping the E motors around. That will prove if it's a bad motor.
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I did on two different motors when I started having the extrusion issue I purchased two new motors one as a replacement and one just for a spare I've tried all 3 motors and it will not move any of them and they all work on the e1 port I removed the board from the printer and checked to see if there were any wire strands resting on it but it's clean it's mounted to a melamine board with small deriln plastic standoffs I inspected the board for any noticeable marks scratches or burn spots and it appears to be clean I rechecked all motors after I mounted up the board again and replugged everything back up to the duet and again all three motors operate on e1 and not on e0
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Please share your config.g file and tell us how you are trying to move a motor attached to the E0 motor output.
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sorry for the delay in response Dc as i was at work but the way i tested the motors is as follows : i placed the motor on the base of the printer then ran a motor wire straight to the duet board loaded up the duet web page and sent an M302 P1 command to let me cold extrude then tried to extruded on the motor . i tried two small cables i have made then i received the premade motor cables i ordered when i got home and retried the test with new cable and both motors and still nothing i uploaded 2 photos to my google drive to show how i have the motors the pics are labeled motor test 1 and motor test 2 just to give you a better visual . i also tried the motor i have currently mounted and the new able i re ran thru the cable chain and still nothing this is the link to the photos and a copy of my config_g it seems correct to me but would definitely make me happy for you to look at it as i am no professional at this and i know i say it a lot but thank you and i am really sorry for all the trouble i know this has been a bit of a pain so thank you .
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6CzmHFanmGbV1VBWF9Yb180YXc/view?usp=sharing
; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.17)
; executed by the firmware on start-up
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; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Sat May 20 2017 22:48:07 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time); General preferences
M111 S0 ; Debugging off
G21 ; Work in millimetres
G90 ; Send absolute coordinates…
M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
M555 P2 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like Marlin
M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
M208 X300 Y300 Z400 S0 ; Set axis maxima; Endstops
M574 X1 Y1 Z1 S0 ; Define active low and unused microswitches
M558 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 H5 F120 T6000 ; Set Z probe type to switch, the axes for which it is used and the probe + travel speeds
G31 P600 X0 Y0 Z0.05 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
M557 X15:285 Y15:285 S20 ; Define mesh grid; Drives
M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
M92 X80 Y80 Z400 E448 ; Set steps per mm
M566 X900 Y900 Z12 E120 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X6000 Y6000 Z180 E1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X500 Y20 Z250 E250 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout; Heaters
M143 S350 ; Set maximum heater temperature to 350C
M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1; Tools
M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C; Network
M550 PLoKi ; Set machine name
M551 Preprap ; Set password
M552 S1 ; Enable network
; Access point is configured manually via M587 by the user
M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet; Fans
M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on; Custom settings are not configured
