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    • chrisundefined
      chris @fcwilt
      last edited by

      @fcwilt Wouldn't have thought that would have stopped it deploying though isn't that just trigger value?

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @chris
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        @chris said in BLTouch Homing in wrong direction:

        @Phaedrux yeah still no joy with G31 S-1 or M280 P0 S10. even when copied config u posted above using bltouch on heater 7 pwm on duet expansion breakout board. Obviously is wired correctly as does self test fine when power applied to the printer. Just not deploying.

        Self test only requires that the power and ground connections be correct.

        If the control signal from the duet that triggers the probe deployment doesn't get to the probe then it won't work.

        So either the configuration of the Z probe doesn't match the pin you are using to trigger the probe OR something has happened to the wiring .

        Frederick

        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator @chris
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          @chris said in BLTouch Homing in wrong direction:

          on heater 7 pwm on duet expansion breakout board.

          Can you post a photo of how you're connected? Are you connecting to the expansion pins on the duet or to a separate breakout board?

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @chris
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            @chris said in BLTouch Homing in wrong direction:

            @fcwilt Wouldn't have thought that would have stopped it deploying though isn't that just trigger value?

            No it wouldn't cause it to fail to deploy but it can affect the accuracy of the readings - once you get it working.

            Frederick

            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • chrisundefined
              chris @Phaedrux
              last edited by chris

              @Phaedrux
              here is an image bltouch pwm on heater 7 pwm and the switch wires on z probe in. was working fine before upgrading to v3.1.1.
              image

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @chris
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                @chris said in BLTouch Homing in wrong direction:

                @Phaedrux
                here is an image bltouch pwm on heater 7 pwm and the switch wires on z probe in. was working fine before upgrading to v3.1.1.

                I've not seen that little board before. Does it always use heater 7 for the Z probe?

                Frederick

                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                • chrisundefined
                  chris
                  last edited by chris

                  yeah just makes heater 7 and heater 6 available from the ide / ribbon pin connector

                  https://www.duet3d.com/Expansion_Breakout

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by Phaedrux

                    In that case I would suggest removing the breakout board entirely. You can connect directly to the needed pins on the expansion port. Using the breakout board is likely changing the name of the pin being used for the M950 definition, but I'll have to check what that is. In the meantime, just connect the BLtouch directly to the expansion pins as shown here.

                    0e609858-1f97-44d9-b50d-7851f1946531-image.png

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                    • chrisundefined
                      chris @Phaedrux
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                      @Phaedrux just for the heater pwm pins

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @chris
                        last edited by

                        @chris said in BLTouch Homing in wrong direction:

                        yeah just makes heater 7 and heater 6 available from the ide / ribbon pin connector

                        https://www.duet3d.com/Expansion_Breakout

                        And you verified the connector you are using is the heater 7 connection?

                        I wasn't able to determine which connector did what.

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • chrisundefined
                          chris
                          last edited by

                          used multimeter to prove continuity between the pins on idc ribbon cable and heater pwm pins

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
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                            I think it may behave like the Duex pwm pin and just needs to be inverted in RRF3.

                            So if you still want to use the expansion breakout board, try inverting the servo pin command by adding an exclamation point like this

                            ; Z-Probe
                            M950 S0 C"!exp.heater7"                         ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                            

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                            • chrisundefined
                              chris @Phaedrux
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                              @Phaedrux didn't have dupont connector hence why was using breakout board only on old firmware used H7 not exp.heater7 which is what 3.1.1 set it as M950 S0 C"exp.heater7"

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
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                                If the exclamation point to invert doesn't work, might need to change the pin name

                                M950 S0 C"duex.pwm5" also might need to be inverted, but I'm not sure. I've never seen anyone use the breakout board for the BLtouch, so until I get some confirmation we'll just have to experiment.

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                                • chrisundefined
                                  chris
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                                  seems inverting pin may have worked deploy macros now working

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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt @chris
                                    last edited by fcwilt

                                    @chris said in BLTouch Homing in wrong direction:

                                    used multimeter to prove continuity between the pins on idc ribbon cable and heater pwm pins

                                    OK then I think at this point you may just want to try the various other names.

                                    exp.heater3, exp.8, !duex.e2heat, !duex.pwm1
                                    exp.heater4, exp.13, !duex.e3heat, !duex.pwm2
                                    exp.heater5, exp.18, !duex.e4heat, !duex.pwm3
                                    exp.heater6, exp.23, !duex.e5heat, !duex.pwm4
                                    exp.heater7, exp.31, !duex.e6heat, !duex.pwm5

                                    I have the Duex5 board and this is my command M950 S0 C"duex.pwm5"

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator @chris
                                      last edited by

                                      @chris said in BLTouch Homing in wrong direction:

                                      seems inverting pin may have worked deploy macros now working

                                      That's good.

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                                      • chrisundefined
                                        chris
                                        last edited by

                                        any advice on how to reduce how close nozzle is to bed currently

                                        G31 P25 X46.5 Y0 Z3.6

                                        do I change the 3.6mm height?

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Follow these steps to measure the trigger height

                                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe#Section_Calibrate_the_Z_probe_trigger_height

                                          Then afterwards when testing your first layer use the baby stepping function to adjust. Then take the amount of baby stepping used and modify the G31 Z value.

                                          A larger G31 Z value moves the nozzle and bed closer together. If it's too close, make G31 Z smaller.

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                                          • chrisundefined
                                            chris
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                                            so reduce the 3.6 to like 3.4?

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