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    • Hellpilotundefined
      Hellpilot @Phaedrux
      last edited by Hellpilot

      @Phaedrux
      My SSR is used to power on my 24V PSU. Figured it would be worth mentioning.

      As far as my any shorts I checked what I could and didn't spot anything out of the ordinary. My bed heater is connected to E1 Heat, my thermistor is connected to E0 Temp. But when the system shuts off it is a hard shut off. Everything powers down but no useful error messages to read.

      *Edit

      I moved PWM down to 0.80 and added in the C7.06e-8 like you had posted. Crazy fast heat up time and no errors. What is this C value?

      *Edit Edit

      Not to mention the B coefficient in my config had 1 too many zeroes.

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator @Hellpilot
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        @Hellpilot said in PID Hotend Tuning:

        My bed heater is connected to E1 Heat, my thermistor is connected to E0 Temp.

        That's the reverse of what your gcode says. The bed should be on the bed heater and the hotend on E0.

        @Hellpilot said in PID Hotend Tuning:

        What is this C value?

        Coefficient.

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        • Hellpilotundefined
          Hellpilot @Phaedrux
          last edited by

          @Phaedrux

          Right, my bed heater is connected correctly same as my bed temp. Went to run bed PID tune next. Not a complete shutdown like the hotend, but as if e-stop was pressed.
          M303 H0 S70 using values

          M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3988 C0 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
          M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
          M307 H0 B0 S0.20 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
          M140 H0

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @Hellpilot
            last edited by

            @Hellpilot said in PID Hotend Tuning:

            "bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3988 C0

            You've got C0 there as well. What is the thermistor for the bed? Probably should remove the C0.

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            • Hellpilotundefined
              Hellpilot @Phaedrux
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              @Phaedrux

              Thank you! Both the PID tuning for the bed and hotend are complete.

              The bed is running at 40% PWM to avoid the soft shutdown. Also has some electrical noise during heating.

              I've read about thermal coupling to prevent runaway. In regarding to the warning in the console messages about potential temperature increase. How serious is this?

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                Do you mean this?

                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/FAQ#Section_M307_Heater_1_appears_to_be_over_powered_If_left_on_at_full_power_its_temperature_is_predicted_to_reach_521C

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                • Hellpilotundefined
                  Hellpilot @Phaedrux
                  last edited by Hellpilot

                  @Phaedrux Yup, thats it! The console mentioned it could reach 365 something.

                  There seems to be an issue running both heaters. Back to getting hard shutdowns. Will double check all my connections just to be sure...

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Are you exceeding the wattage of your PSU?

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                    • Hellpilotundefined
                      Hellpilot @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @Phaedrux That I do not know. I am using a Meanwell 24V, 18.8A PSU.

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        What is the wattage of your bed heater?

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                        • Hellpilotundefined
                          Hellpilot @Phaedrux
                          last edited by Hellpilot

                          @Phaedrux

                          Culprit found. Power input voltage was set to 230V, switched to 115V. Heaters can carry full PWM now.

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