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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti
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      your bed needs about 340W. Can your power supply do that?

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      • bdeliaundefined
        bdelia
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        Yes, I believe it can, I have a Meanwell SE-600-24 PSU, it should be plenty.

        I think I solved my issues. I never did an initial PID tuning on the bed. I am running that now, though I did have to lower the PWM level to about 50%.

        I will post back once I figure out if the PID tuning solves my issues.

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti @bdelia
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          @bdelia said in MK2A Heated Bed causes board to crash:

          I did have to lower the PWM level to about 50%.

          thats strange. are you sure the bed is meant for 24v?.

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          • bdeliaundefined
            bdelia
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            It is supposed to be dual voltage and meant to run at 24V if the supplied current is coming from a 24V PSU.

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti @bdelia
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              @bdelia

              normally the soldering points are different for 12v and 24v. it does not auto detect the voltage.

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              • bdeliaundefined
                bdelia @Veti
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                @Veti said in MK2A Heated Bed causes board to crash:

                @bdelia

                normally the soldering points are different for 12v and 24v. it does not auto detect the voltage.

                Hmm, I will double check that now.

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                • bdeliaundefined
                  bdelia
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                  I have confirmed that the bed I have is dual voltage via the same wiring from the seller. I have been able to AutoTune the heated bed, but had to lower the PWM to 20% during the tuning, then I was able to increase that value back up after tuning and all seems to be working. I will keep my eye on it but I am happy with where I am at right now.

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                  • Vetiundefined
                    Veti @bdelia
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                    @bdelia said in MK2A Heated Bed causes board to crash:

                    I have confirmed that the bed I have is dual voltage via the same wiring from the seller. I

                    i HIGHLY doubt that.

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
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                      @bdelia said in MK2A Heated Bed causes board to crash:

                      I have confirmed that the bed I have is dual voltage via the same wiring from the seller. I have been able to AutoTune the heated bed, but had to lower the PWM to 20% during the tuning, then I was able to increase that value back up after tuning and all seems to be working. I will keep my eye on it but I am happy with where I am at right now.

                      I think you have a fire hazard on your hands here. Does it make sense to you that you have to reduce the PWM to 20%?

                      It's far more likely that the bed is 12v only and you're feeding it 24v.

                      Can you post a photo of the bed and a close up of the terminals?

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                      • BoAundefined
                        BoA @bdelia
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                        @bdelia It looks like it is wired for 12V. Connecting to 24V makes 4x the power, that is why You had to lower the max pwm so much.

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                        • bdeliaundefined
                          bdelia
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                          I have been able to get past this. I only have to run the initial autotune with the PWM lowered. Once done I can raise the PWM value back to 1.00.

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                          • A Former User?
                            A Former User
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                            If the bed is wired for 12v it would be better to re-wire it for 24v. If you upload a picture of the bed and wiring maybe we can advice on how/if/etc

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                            • Vetiundefined
                              Veti @bdelia
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                              @bdelia said in MK2A Heated Bed causes board to crash:

                              I have been able to get past this. I only have to run the initial autotune with the PWM lowered. Once done I can raise the PWM value back to 1.00.

                              does it not bother you that 3 people think that your bead is wired for 12V as this explains why you have to lower your pwm?

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                              • bdeliaundefined
                                bdelia
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                                Yes, I little. However, I have done my due diligence and contacted the seller, Zyltech, and have confirmed this board is a dual voltage bed as I believe I have mentioned already.

                                Is there a way to confirm this with a multi-meter or other mechanism?

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                                • Vetiundefined
                                  Veti @bdelia
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                                  @bdelia

                                  post a picture of the backside.

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                                  • A Former User?
                                    A Former User @bdelia
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                                    @bdelia said in MK2A Heated Bed causes board to crash:

                                    Is there a way to confirm this with a multi-meter or other mechanism?

                                    disconnect the wires from the bed terminal and measure the resistance across them

                                    and sure, it can be dual voltage, but its not automatic

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                                    • bdeliaundefined
                                      bdelia @A Former User
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                                      @bearer said in MK2A Heated Bed causes board to crash:

                                      @bdelia said in MK2A Heated Bed causes board to crash:

                                      Is there a way to confirm this with a multi-meter or other mechanism?

                                      disconnect the wires from the bed terminal and measure the resistance across them

                                      and sure, it can be dual voltage, but its not automatic

                                      I appreciate everyone's help on this and guidance. I will check resistance once I get back to the house. If I recall I believe the resistance was 1.7Ohms when I initially checked.

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                                      • A Former User?
                                        A Former User
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                                        https://reprap.org/wiki/PCB_Heatbed site suggest 1.7 is for 12v beds, but they also say the size of the MK2A is smaller there. anyways it also has pictures showing how the dual voltage beds have different connections for 12 an 24v. might be helpful

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                                        • bdeliaundefined
                                          bdelia @A Former User
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                                          @bearer said in MK2A Heated Bed causes board to crash:

                                          https://reprap.org/wiki/PCB_Heatbed site suggest 1.7 is for 12v beds, but they also say the size of the MK2A is smaller there. anyways it also has pictures showing how the dual voltage beds have different connections for 12 an 24v. might be helpful

                                          I just double checked resistance, it reads 1.6Ohms.

                                          I will review the specs on the page you shared. When I talked to the seller they said that this bed gets wired the same regardless of 12V or 24V. I will also contact them again and let them know the resistance I am getting and see if they feel that I have a defective bed or not.

                                          Here is a picture for their website of the board I have for reference.

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                                          • BoAundefined
                                            BoA @bdelia
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                                            @bdelia at 1.7Ohm it would draw just over 14A of current!

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