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    • NeueKlasseundefined
      NeueKlasse
      last edited by NeueKlasse

      I thought when i just use one extruder i don't need the other one for that specific Print.

      You Think about M591 D0/D1 P0 C"in5/in6" ?, maybe it would be handy in a future DWC to
      have Buttons to enable/disable configured Filament Sensors.

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
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        Well if you create a macro with that commands it basically shows up as a button.

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        • NeueKlasseundefined
          NeueKlasse @Phaedrux
          last edited by

          @Phaedrux hm, ok i thought about that... so last time i tested everything it don't lets me start any gcode file because it needs both fil. sensors to be OK...
          maybe i delete everything from the config file and set it separately over the Slicer/S3D Post processing....

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          • NeueKlasseundefined
            NeueKlasse
            last edited by NeueKlasse

            Today i've got the New Ribboncable,
            attached Everything. first it was working fine, Homing, Mesh Bed Leveling,
            Speed and Acceleration Tests with 300mm/s...
            a few minutes without anything...

            after i turned on the Heaters (Bed Heater to 60degree) (Powered direct from Supply
            over original Mosfets) Control via Heater 0 connector....
            and 2 Nozzleheaters from the Board (50W each)

            after Turning on the Heaters => Board lost connection, no header... timeouts, DCS not started... etc... when the heaters are off i have no problems at all (not like before the cable swap)

            After Some tests i can confirm that the Board Lost Connection faults only occure when i set the Bed Temperature higher than +10degree (when i heat up from 30 to 40 it's not a problem... but when i heat up to 60 degree i get errors instantaniously..

            I can Heat up both nozzles (together or alone to 180 degree without error)....

            What's the problem?

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            • NeueKlasseundefined
              NeueKlasse
              last edited by NeueKlasse

              Update... it doesn't matter what i try i also cant update the Firmware to another
              than 3.1.1... with all others DWC says: DCS not started...

              While Updating over DWC the PanelDue says: ERROR: Operation 3 failed after 5 retries....

              i don't know either...

              i bought the Duet Board to have a reliable Printer... now i'm disappointed from it....

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                Can you post some photos of your setup so we can see what your wiring looks like?

                @NeueKlasse said in Duet 3 6HC Rev. 1.01 Faulty:

                Update... it doesn't matter what i try i also cant update the Firmware to another
                than 3.1.1... with all others DWC says: DCS not started...
                While Updating over DWC the PanelDue says: ERROR: Operation 3 failed after 5 retries....

                Can you be more specific about what exactly you've tried to do?

                Did you ever get the board working in standalone mode?

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                • NeueKlasseundefined
                  NeueKlasse @Phaedrux
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                  • NeueKlasseundefined
                    NeueKlasse @Phaedrux
                    last edited by

                    @Phaedrux

                    @Phaedrux

                    What i tried to do:

                    • Update Firmware via SBC sudo apt update / upgrade ... with "no Header" Errors while updating.
                    • Directly over DWC (file Upload, Version 3.2beta 1 to beta 4), Problem is that after i
                      acknowledge that i want to update the Firmware the Paneldue says ERROR: Operation 3 failed after 5 retries
                      and DWC shows me that it is updating... still after 1 hour.... when i reset the printer the
                      Firmware is corrupt and i need to erase it and update it via USB Cable and Bossa!
                      and when i don't Use Firmware 3.1.1 it doesn't connect to the PI SBC and DWC says... DCS not started.

                    After i installed V3.1.1 it seems to be OK... but while heating up the bed i get
                    connection losses (no header etc.)

                    Oh not to mention... if the sudo apt get upgrade runs till the error it wont reconnect to the Board till i set up the DuetPi with a new Image....!!!!!

                    Wiring:

                    Driver 0 = X
                    Driver 1 = Y
                    Driver 2 = Z1
                    Driver 3 = Z2
                    Driver 4 = E1
                    Driver 5 = E2

                    Out1 = (Heater 0) to Bed Mosfet
                    Out2 = Heater 1
                    Out3 = Heater 2

                    Out7 = Extruder Fans
                    Out8 = Part Cooling Fans

                    Power IN = 25V

                    Only 1 Jumper on Int 5V En

                    IO0 = PanelDue 5i

                    IO3 = X Endstop
                    IO4 = Y Endstop
                    IO7 = BlTouch V3.1

                    IO6 = 5V Cabinet Fan

                    Temp0 = Bed Thermistor
                    Temp1 = E1 Temp
                    Temp2 = E2 Temp

                    physically Wiring itself should not be the Problem

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                    • NeueKlasseundefined
                      NeueKlasse @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @Phaedrux
                      Yes the Board works in Standalone mode.. see above

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        When in standalone are you able to update to 3.2 Beta 4.1?
                        Then once updated are you able to start with a fresh pi image and update to the unstable branch to match?

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                        • NeueKlasseundefined
                          NeueKlasse @Phaedrux
                          last edited by

                          @Phaedrux

                          update to the unstable branch to match.. you mean via apt update/upgrade?
                          i could try..

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Yes, once the board itself has the 3.2 beta 4.1 firmware flashed on it via USB/Bossa.

                            Then a fresh Pi image install. https://pkg.duet3d.com/DuetPi.zip

                            And then update to the unstable branch to match the firmware on the duet.
                            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Getting_Started_With_Duet_3#Section_Software_Installation

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                            • NeueKlasseundefined
                              NeueKlasse @Phaedrux
                              last edited by NeueKlasse

                              @Phaedrux
                              The DuetPi Update with or without connection to the board via ribbon cable?

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator @NeueKlasse
                                last edited by

                                @NeueKlasse I think you can update without the board being connected.

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                                • NeueKlasseundefined
                                  NeueKlasse @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by NeueKlasse

                                  @Phaedrux

                                  I've done everything that was mentioned.

                                  • Board Updated to 3.2 Beta 4.1 (Tested in Standalone Mode, no Problems)
                                  • DuetPi freshly installed (+added ssh.txt, +added wpa_supplicant)
                                    and Updated via unstable branch to 3.2 Beta 4.1 => OK!
                                  • DuetPi Connected to Duet3 Board => Again, no Problems while Hotends heating (M303) or Movenments, Homing etc.
                                  • BUT when i start M303 for the Hotbed => it's exactly like the Picture from 1.Dec.2020 above. Many Many Connection Losses.....

                                  When i Turn on the Hotbed i get Errors like DCS Stopped, Connection Lost and Connection established again...
                                  as soon as i set the Bed Temp to 0 (off) the Problems STOP! Immediately!

                                  i don't understand!...

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Can you give some more details on your bed, the mosfet, and the wiring?

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                                    • NeueKlasseundefined
                                      NeueKlasse @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by

                                      @Phaedrux

                                      Bed is the Original 24V Bed from Anycubic.
                                      Mosfets are the Original Ones either..

                                      Today i made the conversion from Mosfets to the V_OUT Connections on the
                                      Duet itself... maybe the Mosfets are faulty....
                                      but after Powering the Printer and looking on DWC now i get
                                      lots of Communication Lost Errors (see above...) WITHOUT Powering the bed?! i Checked everything again... no Issue there.

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by

                                        It sounds to me that there is a ground loop in the power wiring. Please provide photos showing how you are providing power to the Pi, the Duet, and the bed heater circuit. Also please confirm that you do not have any independently-powered devices (for example a PC) connected to the Duet or the Pi via USB.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        • NeueKlasseundefined
                                          NeueKlasse @dc42
                                          last edited by NeueKlasse

                                          @dc42 Thanks, below some Pictures of the Wiring!

                                          Power Supply 3 Rows 24V

                                          1. Row Bed Heater Mosfets
                                          2. Row Pi Powersupply 15W
                                          3. Row to Duet Board

                                          IMG_1639-min.JPG !

                                          on Bottom Right you see the Power Supply for the Pi, i also tried another Pi Power Supply
                                          direct driven from the Wall Outlet without any Changes....

                                          Now i've the Mosfets back in the Cabinet... the 15A Fuse of the Duet seems to weak for the bed and blows after 10-20 degree heatup.... 😕
                                          after having the Mosfets back in the Printer the Connection Loss Issues are still
                                          high frequently.....

                                          IMG_1640-min.JPG!

                                          IMG_1641-min.JPG!

                                          Nothing else is powered / Connected from the Pi or from the Duet! only everything
                                          on the Photos...

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                                          • NeueKlasseundefined
                                            NeueKlasse
                                            last edited by NeueKlasse

                                            I Have disconnected everything from the Board except the Ribbon Cable to the Pi
                                            and the PanelDue.
                                            The Communication Errors are still coming every Second!
                                            Connection Lost, Connection Established... and so on and so on...

                                            Tried with another Pi and another Ribbon Cable! Same Thing

                                            I am wondering why they doesn't came that frequently yesterday night....????
                                            they almost just came when i heated up the bed.... but now it's horrible

                                            is it possible to get another Board to confirm that's not the Board? maybe Repair?

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