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    gringo
    last edited by 14 Dec 2020, 18:37

    Hello,
    I have a fan control problem on my IDEX Printer. In tfree0 and tfree1 I have add the command M106 S0 so that the Fans are switched off when the Tool is not used.
    In tpost0 and tpost1 there is M106 R2 to switch the Fan on again when the Tool is active.
    If the respective Tool is active, the Fan do not switch on.
    In Simplify3D I have set the Fans should run from the 3rd Layer.
    Why don't the fans Start?

    Thanks for your help

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      dc42 administrators
      last edited by dc42 14 Dec 2020, 18:44

      Please post your config.g file. Which firmware version are you using?

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        gringo
        last edited by gringo 14 Dec 2020, 19:00

        I‘m using 3.1.1
        Thais my config.g :

        ; General preferences
        G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
        M550 P"Der Duale" ; set printer name

        ;-------------------------------- Network ----------------------------------------------------------
        M552 S1 ; enable network
        M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
        M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
        M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

        ;--------------------------------- Display PanelDue 7i ----------------------------------------------

        M575 P1 S1 B57600

        ;----------------------------------------- Drives ----------------------------------------------------
        M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes backwards x
        M569 P1 S0 ; physical drive 1 goes backwards y
        M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards u
        M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes forwards z links
        M569 P9 S0 ; physical drive 9 goes forwards z hinten rechts
        M569 P4 S1 ; physical drive 4 goes forwards z rechts
        M569 P5 S1 ; physical drive 5 goes backwards extruder links
        M569 P6 S1 ; physical drive 6 goes forwards extruder rechts

        M584 X0 Y1 Z2:9:4 U3 E5:6 ; set drive mapping
        M671 X-132:148:428 Y-25:385:-55 S5 ; Positionen der Trapezgewindespindel für das Bed Leveling
        M350 X16 U16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
        M92 X80.00 U80.0 Y80.00 Z2133.33 E415.00:415.00 ; set steps per mm
        M566 X900.00 U900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E600.00:600.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
        M203 X12000.00 U12000.00 Y12000.00 Z600.00 E36000.00:36000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
        M201 X1000.00 U1000.00 Y1000.00 Z250.00 E800.00:800.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
        M906 X1000 U1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800:800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
        M84 S120 ; Set idle timeout

        ;------------------------------------------------- Axis Limits -------------------------------------------------
        ;M208 X-88 U0 Y-40 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
        ;M208 X278 U368 Y295 Z280 S0 ; set axis maxima
        M208 X-88: 290 U0: 380 Y-25: 325 Z0: 270

        ;------------------------------------------------- Endstops -------------------------------------------------------
        M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
        M574 U2 S1 P"e0stop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on U via pin e0stop
        M574 Y2 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
        ;M574 Z2:4 S1 P"zstop + e1stop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on 2 Z Motoren via pin zstop + e1stop
        M574 Z0 S2 ; Z-Home mit Sonde

        ;-------------------------------------------------- Z-Probe --------------------------------------------------------------
        M558 P5 C"zprobe.in" H5 F150 T10000 ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
        G31 P500 X0 Y25 Z0.8404
        M557 X0:280 Y20:290 S20 ; define mesh grid

        ;-------------------------------------------------- Heaters -----------------------------------------------------------------
        M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
        M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
        ;M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
        M307 H0 A214.2 C887.4 D1.5 S1.00 V24.0 B0 ; PID Tuning
        M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
        M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
        M308 S1 P"duex.e2temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
        M950 H1 C"duex.e2heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
        ;M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
        M307 H1 A606.0 C166.7 D3.6 S1.00 V24.1 B0 ; PID Tuning
        M308 S2 P"duex.e3temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin e1temp
        M950 H2 C"duex.e3heat" T2 ; create nozzle heater output on e1heat and map it to sensor 2
        ;M307 H2 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
        M307 H2 A581.7 C168.9 D3.2 S1.00 V24.1 B0 ; PID Tuning

        ;---------------------------------------------------- Fans -------------------------------------------------------------------
        M950 F0 C"duex.fan4" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin duex.fan3 and set its frequency
        M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
        M950 F1 C"duex.fan3" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin duex.fan4 and set its frequency
        M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
        M950 F2 C"duex.fan5" Q500 ; create fan 2 on pin duex.fan5 and set its frequency
        M106 P2 S0 H-1 ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
        M950 F3 C"duex.fan6" Q500 ; create fan 3 on pin duex.fan6 and set its frequency
        M106 P3 S1 H2 T45 ; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

        ;----------------------------------------------------- Tools ---------------------------------------------------------------
        M563 P0 S"Tool 1 links" D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
        G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
        M563 P1 S"Tool 2 rechts" D1 H2 X3 F2 ; define tool 1
        G10 P1 U0 Y0.05 Z0 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
        G10 P1 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

        ; Custom settings are not defined

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          gringo
          last edited by 16 Dec 2020, 15:00

          Any Idea?

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            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by 17 Dec 2020, 03:14

            Can you include your tool change files and a sample sliced gcode file?

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              gringo
              last edited by 17 Dec 2020, 06:34

              Here is the gode:
              Würfel ohne Toolchange Script.gcode

              tfree0:
              M83 ; relative Extruderbewegung
              G1 E-1.4 F3600 ; 2mm einfahren
              M106 S0 ; Schalten Sie den Drucklüfter aus P0
              G91 ; relative Achsbewegung
              ;G1 Z3 F500; bis 3mm
              G90 ; absolute Achsbewegung
              G1 Y-25 F12000 ; Y uf -25mm fahren
              G1 X-88 Y-25 F12000 ; Parken Sie den X-Wagen bei -88 mm

              tfree1:
              M83 ; relative Extruderbewegung
              G1 E-1.4 F3600 ; 2mm einfahren
              M106 S0 ; Schalten Sie unseren Drucklüfter aus P2
              G91 ; relative Achsbewegung
              ;G1 Z3 F500; bis 3mm
              G90 ; absolute Achsbewegung
              G1 Y-25 F12000 ; Y uf -25mm fahren
              G1 U371 F12000 ; Parken Sie den U-Wagen bei + 371 mm

              tpost0:
              M106 R2 ; Stellen Sie die Geschwindigkeit des Drucklüfters wieder her Lüfter P0
              M116 P0 ; Warten Sie, bis die Heizungen des Werkzeugs 0 die Betriebstemperatur erreicht haben
              M83 ; relative Extruderbewegung
              ;G1 E2 F3600 ; 2mm extrudieren
              G92 E0 ; zero the extruded distance
              G1 E15 F1000 ; prime the new extruder
              G1 F200 E15
              G92 E0
              G1 F5000 E-1

              G1 F20000 X-75
              G1 F20000 X-48
              G1 F20000 X-75
              G1 F20000 X-48
              G1 F20000 X-75
              G1 F20000 X-48

              tpost1:
              M106 R2 ; Stellen Sie die Geschwindigkeit des Drucklüfters wieder her Lüfter P2
              M116 P1 ; Warten Sie, bis die Heizungen des Werkzeugs 1 die Betriebstemperatur erreicht haben
              M83 ; relative Extruderbewegung
              ;G1 E2 F3600 ; 2mm extrudieren
              G92 E0 ; zero the extruded distance
              G1 E15 F1000 ; prime the new extruder
              G1 F200 E15
              G92 E0
              G1 F5000 E-1

              G1 F20000 X357
              G1 F20000 X328
              G1 F20000 X357
              G1 F20000 X328
              G1 F20000 X357
              G1 F20000 X328

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                Phaedrux Moderator @gringo
                last edited by 18 Dec 2020, 00:34

                @gringo said in IDEX Toolchange Fan Control:

                In tfree0 and tfree1 I have add the command M106 S0 so that the Fans are switched off when the Tool is not used.
                In tpost0 and tpost1 there is M106 R2 to switch the Fan on again when the Tool is active.
                If the respective Tool is active, the Fan do not switch on.

                So what I think is happening is that you are turning the fan off and then asking it to resume to the last set speed, which was off, so it's staying off.

                Does that make sense?

                Rnnn Restore fan speed to the value it has when the print was paused (R1) or the last time the fan speed was set and no P parameter was provided (R2).

                At least that's my reading of what R2 does.

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                  gringo
                  last edited by 18 Dec 2020, 05:29

                  I think so too.
                  But if I want the Fans off for the first 2Layers. How do I Adjust that?

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                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by 18 Dec 2020, 05:53

                    Can't you add a gcode process in s3d for that layer?

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                      gringo
                      last edited by 19 Dec 2020, 06:14

                      I have now set a fan speed for Layers 1, 2 and 3 of 1%, 50% and 100% in S3D.
                      I let Tool 1 heat up first, so it works now.

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