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    Blacksheep99
    last edited by 25 Jan 2021, 22:55

    I'm tuning my printer. Things are going okay but I get this stretched effect at the start of a layer. It's visible on the surface of a part. Additional walls may hide it I guess?

    Is this linked to acceleration settings, retraction & could pressure advance help?

    Thanks.

    IMG_7515.jpg IMG_7516.jpg

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      Veti
      last edited by 26 Jan 2021, 05:33

      yes that can be caused by retraction.

      it could be to much retraction. or the filament slipping.

      it could also be a wrong thermistor setting.

      post your config.g

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        Blacksheep99 @Veti
        last edited by 26 Jan 2021, 09:59

        @Veti

        ; Configuration file for Duet Maestro (firmware version 3)
        ; executed by the firmware on start-up
        ;
        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Sat Jan 09 2021 18:02:08 GMT+0000 (Greenwich Mean Time)
        ; General preferences
        G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
        M550 P"ST3Di280 Duet" ; set printer name
        ; Network
        M552 P192.168.0.60 S1 ; enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
        M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
        M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
        M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet
        ; Drives
        M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
        M569 P1 S0 ; physical drive 1 goes backwards
        M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
        M569 P3 S0 ; physical drive 3 goes backwards
        M569 P4 S1 ; physical drive 4 goes forwards
        M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3:4 ; set drive mapping
        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
        M92 X91.13 Y106.84 Z1242.228 E104.76:104.76 ; set steps per mm
        M566 X1600.00 Y1600.00 Z60.00 E120.00:120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
        M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00:1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
        M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00:250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
        M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E600:600 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
        ; Axis Limits
        M208 X-140 Y-75 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
        M208 X165 Y75 Z150 S0 ; set axis maxima
        ; Endstops
        M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
        M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
        M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
        ; Z-Probe
        ;M574 Z1 S1 ; Set endstops controlled by probe
        M950 S0 C"^zprobe.mod" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
        M558 P8 C"^zprobe.in" H3 F900 T6000 ; Set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds
        G31 P50 X-43 Y5 Z1.816 ;Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height 1.81
        M557 X-120:120 Y-65:75 S15 ; define mesh grid
        ; Heaters
        M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" A"Bed Heater" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
        M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
        M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
        M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
        M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
        M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" A"Left Extruder" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
        M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
        M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
        M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
        M308 S2 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" A"Right Extruder" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin e1temp
        M950 H2 C"e1heat" T2 ; create nozzle heater output on e1heat and map it to sensor 2
        M307 H2 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
        M143 H2 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C
        ; Fans
        M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
        M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
        M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
        M106 P1 S1 H1:2 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
        ; Tools
        M563 P0 S"Left" D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
        G10 P0 X14.275 Y-0.25 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
        G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
        M563 P1 S"Right" D1 H2 F0 ; define tool 1
        G10 P1 X-14.275 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
        G10 P1 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
        ; Custom settings are not defined
        M575 P1 S1 B57600 ;PanelDue interface
        M912 P0 S1
        M501
        M911 S21 R23 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
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          Veti
          last edited by 26 Jan 2021, 10:00

          print a temperature tower to see if your thermistor settings is correct.

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            Blacksheep99
            last edited by 26 Jan 2021, 10:01

            Okay, Will do

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              Blacksheep99
              last edited by 26 Jan 2021, 17:21

              None of them look great, hotter the better though it seems although I cannot be sure the actual temp correlates with the temp in DWC.

              FYI the PLA was only opened at the weekend although I've had it sat around for a while. On my other printer 215 is about the sweet spot for this PLA.

              IMG_7517.jpg IMG_7518.jpg

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                Veti
                last edited by 26 Jan 2021, 17:49

                @Blacksheep99 said in What setting/s cause this?:

                On my other printer 215 is about the sweet spot for this PLA.

                if your thermistor setting is incorrect then 215 will not be real 215
                it can easily be off by 20-40c

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                  Blacksheep99 @Veti
                  last edited by 26 Jan 2021, 18:08

                  @Veti said in What setting/s cause this?:

                  @Blacksheep99 said in What setting/s cause this?:

                  On my other printer 215 is about the sweet spot for this PLA.

                  if your thermistor setting is incorrect then 215 will not be real 215
                  it can easily be off by 20-40c

                  The other printer is a stock Polaroid 250s so I am assuming it’s calibrated somewhat? That’s my comparison. Point taken though

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                    Blacksheep99
                    last edited by 26 Jan 2021, 19:25

                    Benchy using my current settings, sliced in Cura 4.8.

                    0.2layers. Printed at '235' which is too hot for PLA.

                    IMG_7523.jpg IMG_7519.jpg IMG_7520.jpg IMG_7522.jpg

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                      Veti
                      last edited by 26 Jan 2021, 19:30

                      can you print this

                      https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2080224

                      and try and calibrate your retraction with it.

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                        Blacksheep99 @Veti
                        last edited by 27 Jan 2021, 12:55

                        @Veti

                        I think 1.6mm retraction 50mm/s looks best.

                        stringing1.jpg

                        0, 0.5, 1 retraction

                        stringing2.jpg

                        1.5, 1.6, 1.75, 2

                        I think 1.5mm is close but has some slight surface blobs.

                        I previously had it set at 2.5mm.

                        Note: Pressure advance disabled in config.g for these prints.

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                          Veti
                          last edited by 27 Jan 2021, 13:22

                          ok see if that improves the benchy. nearly 1cm difference for retraction is a lot.

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