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    schmluka
    last edited by 7 Feb 2021, 00:34

    Hi,

    I have a tool changer running a prime.g script after picking up a tool.
    Prime.g is supposed to brush over the nozzle, purge the nozzle with filament, brush again and start printing.
    What I find is happening, that after the purge I'd like to have 3mm retraction, but I get approx. 10mm (10second long, not sure how much). Does anyone see where it comes from?

    purge.g:

    ;brush in
    G1 X-23 Y171 F25000
    G1 X-23 Y207 F25000
    G1 X-23 Y171 F25000
    G1 X-23 Y207 F25000
    ;Park for prime/purge
    G1 X-23 Y223 F50000
    ;Prime
    G92 E0
    G1 E50 F200 ;extrude 50mm
    ; HERE: approx. 10s of slow retraction. Why?
    G1 E-3 F200 ;retract 3mm
    G92 E0
    ;Run Out
    G1 X-23 Y207 F50000
    ;Brush Out
    G1 X-23 Y205 F25000
    G1 X-21 Y200 F25000
    G1 X-23 Y195 F25000
    G1 X-21 Y190 F25000
    G1 X-23 Y185 F25000
    G1 X-21 Y180 F25000
    G1 X-23 Y175 F25000
    G1 X-21 Y170 F25000
    G1 X-23 Y170 F25000
    G1 X-23 Y205 F25000
    ;brush in
    G1 X-23 Y171 F25000
    G1 X-23 Y207 F25000
    G1 X-23 Y171 F25000
    G1 X-23 Y207 F25000
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      fcwilt
      last edited by 7 Feb 2021, 01:01

      Hi,

      Is the extruder set to Absolute or Relative mode?

      Frederick

      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        schmluka
        last edited by 7 Feb 2021, 01:11

        Using PrusaSlicer, "use relative E distances" is unchecked. So I guess absolute?

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          fcwilt @schmluka
          last edited by 7 Feb 2021, 01:23

          @schmluka said in Mysterious retraction::

          Using PrusaSlicer, "use relative E distances" is unchecked. So I guess absolute?

          Check it and try again.

          Frederick

          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            schmluka
            last edited by 7 Feb 2021, 01:30

            is there any other work-around? I always thought you are supposed to use absolute extrusion values for higher precision?

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              fcwilt @schmluka
              last edited by fcwilt 2 Jul 2021, 01:56 7 Feb 2021, 01:52

              @schmluka said in Mysterious retraction::

              is there any other work-around? I always thought you are supposed to use absolute extrusion values for higher precision?

              I was always told to use relative.


              Link to article talking about Relative or Absolute


              With relative you retract with negative values - G1 E-3.

              But with absolute to retract 3mm after a G1 E50 you would use a G1 E47.

              Frederick

              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                Phaedrux Moderator @schmluka
                last edited by 7 Feb 2021, 20:27

                @schmluka said in Mysterious retraction::

                is there any other work-around? I always thought you are supposed to use absolute extrusion values for higher precision?

                The firmware has to convert to relative extruder values anyway. Absolute is a holdover from the early days of reprap and can be safely left behind.

                Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                  schmluka @fcwilt
                  last edited by 7 Feb 2021, 21:14

                  @fcwilt Thanks for the quick help. Changing to relative E distance worked.

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