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    • dingo007undefined
      dingo007
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      welp fuses are fine, i checked the board 2 times, then noticed they had removed the jumpers for serial Z, ive replaced them since and now X and Z move fine, Y is being problematic, my guess is because they spliced the two Y motors to a single Y connector, but if the motors are on opposite sides of the frame one moves forwards and one should move back. neither move but now they at least make a sound.

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
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        @dingo007 said in Duet II Ethernet steppers not moving:

        then noticed they had removed the jumpers for serial Z, ive replaced them since and now X and Z move fine, Y is being problematic, my guess is because they spliced the two Y motors to a single Y connector

        why would they do that? just use the z connector.

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @dingo007
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          @dingo007 said in Duet II Ethernet steppers not moving:

          welp fuses are fine, i checked the board 2 times, then noticed they had removed the jumpers for serial Z, ive replaced them since and now X and Z move fine, Y is being problematic, my guess is because they spliced the two Y motors to a single Y connector, but if the motors are on opposite sides of the frame one moves forwards and one should move back. neither move but now they at least make a sound.

          You need to find a new builder.

          😉

          Frederick

          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • dingo007undefined
            dingo007 @Veti
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            @Veti yeah. nope... sorry never sending it back there again...! even i know better.

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @dingo007
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              @dingo007 said in Duet II Ethernet steppers not moving:

              @Veti yeah. nope... sorry never sending it back there again...! even i know better.

              Well maybe they just wired the Y steppers wrong and they are fighting each other.

              That should make quite a bit of noise though.

              If you don't like the idea of driving both Y steppers together like that you could use an a pair of external drivers for Y or perhaps Z.

              The Duet WiFi has connections available for that on the expansion connector.

              I'm using two of these on a printer I am building and so far they are working very well.

              External Driver System

              Just a thought.

              Frederick

              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • dingo007undefined
                dingo007
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                @fcwilt said in Duet II Ethernet steppers not moving:

                Well maybe they just wired the Y steppers wrong and they are fighting each other.

                Yes they sound like marbles in a can now, have to figure out the wiring, seems one should go forward, one should go back, i tried reversing 2 wires on one of the motors, didnt seem to help

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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt @dingo007
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                  @dingo007 said in Duet II Ethernet steppers not moving:

                  @fcwilt said in Duet II Ethernet steppers not moving:

                  Well maybe they just wired the Y steppers wrong and they are fighting each other.

                  Yes they sound like marbles in a can now, have to figure out the wiring, seems one should go forward, one should go back, i tried reversing 2 wires on one of the motors, didnt seem to help

                  Separate them and determine the wiring needed for each stepper to move in the correct direction.

                  Then you can re-connect them both.

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • droftartsundefined
                    droftarts administrators @dingo007
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                    @dingo007 It will also depend if they have wired the two Y motors in series, or parallel (which will need twice the motor current). They may have also mixed up the motor phases of each motor, and/or wired them so one motor goes the wrong direction.

                    I'd first separate the wiring and find the phase pairs: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_and_connecting_stepper_motors#Section_Identifying_the_stepper_motor_phases

                    Assuming motor phase pairs are black/green and red/blue (common, but there's no standard), then decide whether you wire them in parallel or series. We recommend series, though it's a bit more complicated to wire, there is even current distribution across motors, and you don't have to double the motor current.

                    alt text

                    This wiring diagram should cause the motors to turn the same way. If you need them to go the opposite direction, switch one wire pair, eg from
                    Green > Motor 1 > Black > Green > Motor 2 > Black
                    to
                    Green > Motor 1 > Black > Black > Motor 2 > Green

                    Ian

                    Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                    • dingo007undefined
                      dingo007
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                      So im thinking at this point, Im going to use Z A/B for both motors on Y obviously with one running backwards, and use Y/E1 for the Z screws. just a matter of cutting the cable and adding a new lead for the second Y .....

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                      • dingo007undefined
                        dingo007 @dingo007
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                        @dingo007 Yupp thats resolved now... all motors working

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