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Smart effector for delta printers
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    Dougal1957
    last edited by 22 Jul 2017, 19:19

    @W3DRK:

    Wow…I've just now noticed this topic. What a stunning design, I really love the concept!

    Also, if you haven't already is there any chance you could work with the Zesty Nimble crew so they can design a mount for this new heatsink/effector arrangement?

    Cheers!

    Has already been done as long as the Hole system on the production Hot-ends don't change but the Zesty guys will be able to mod that in about 30 sec's flat I reckon Lykle came up with the adaptor in about 30 mins.

    see https://www.shapeways.com/product/62MB3QZJ7/nimble-mount-base-new-effector?optionId=62810434

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      dc42 administrators
      last edited by 22 Jul 2017, 19:48

      The hot end mounting hasn't changed. We managed to squeeze in 3 extra mounting holes in the production version, see https://duet3d.com/wiki/Smart_effector_and_carriage_adapters_for_delta_printer#Connectors_and_Wiring.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        Whitewolf
        last edited by 22 Jul 2017, 21:38

        Will this be compatible with the upcoming Pico hybrid hotend or will it only work with the special e3d mount?

        Would love to pair this with a pico hybrid and Zesty nimble cable extruder

        Exploring the universe wherever the tech blows

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          dc42 administrators
          last edited by 22 Jul 2017, 21:57

          It has a 12mm diameter hole in the centre for mounting the hot end.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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            Dougal1957
            last edited by 23 Jul 2017, 14:48

            David any idea when we will be able to order I am that impressed by the Beta that I will want to put a release one on the delta to take account of the changes that have been made?

            Doug

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              dc42 administrators
              last edited by 23 Jul 2017, 15:20

              We expect to have them available early next month.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                fcwilt
                last edited by 23 Jul 2017, 16:09

                Hmm…

                No place for your IR z-probe device?

                Frederick

                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  A Former User
                  last edited by 23 Jul 2017, 17:54

                  @fcwilt:

                  Hmm…

                  No place for your IR z-probe device?

                  Frederick

                  That's because it has been superseded by an on-board nozzle contact sensor which doesn't care about bed type, material or colour.

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                    fcwilt
                    last edited by 23 Jul 2017, 19:20

                    @CaLviNx:

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                    That's because it has been superseded by an on-board nozzle contact sensor which doesn't care about bed type, material or colour.

                    Thanks.

                    How does that work. The picture doesn't seem to provide that information.

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by 23 Jul 2017, 19:25

                      It's a secret until we start shipping them.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                        Dougal1957
                        last edited by 23 Jul 2017, 19:27

                        I can confirm however that it works and gives me deviations of less than 10b microns

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                          Hergonoway
                          last edited by 23 Jul 2017, 19:54

                          hi what's the price's estimation for the whole set (carriage, sensor if sold separately, and effector) ?

                          Delta goes BrrrRRRRrrrrrRRRRrrr

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                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by 24 Jul 2017, 08:01

                            I hope to make an announcement regarding price and availability soon.

                            I have updated the assembly instructions at https://duet3d.com/wiki/Smart_effector_and_carriage_adapters_for_delta_printer to cover programming the sensitivity of the nozzle contact probe using the new M672 command, and to reflect changes between the prototype and production effector.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                              DADIY
                              last edited by 25 Jul 2017, 08:31

                              @dc42:

                              I hope to make an announcement regarding price and availability soon.

                              I have updated the assembly instructions at https://duet3d.com/wiki/Smart_effector_and_carriage_adapters_for_delta_printer to cover programming the sensitivity of the nozzle contact probe using the new M672 command, and to reflect changes between the prototype and production effector.

                              Will you be selling the arms and ball studs too or will these need to be sourced directly from Hayden?

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                                A Former User
                                last edited by 25 Jul 2017, 08:37

                                @DADIY:

                                Will you be selling the arms and ball studs too or will these need to be sourced directly from Hayden?

                                I have a sneaky feeling you didnt actually read the whole thread, the quote below was taken from page ONE

                                cough

                                @T3P3Tony:

                                @Jimborr:

                                Any chance you or T3P3 will make custom length Haydn Huntley magnetic arms and sell it all as a kit with the PCB?

                                We will certainly explore collaborating with Haydn on purchasing his mag arms in larger volumes to bundle with the effectors, once we get closer to a production version. That makes sense for people in the UK/Europe at least (it makes less sense to import them from the US just to ship them back).

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                                  DADIY
                                  last edited by 25 Jul 2017, 09:32

                                  @CaLviNx:

                                  @DADIY:

                                  Will you be selling the arms and ball studs too or will these need to be sourced directly from Hayden?

                                  I have a sneaky feeling you didnt actually read the whole thread, the quote below was taken from page ONE

                                  cough

                                  @T3P3Tony:

                                  @Jimborr:

                                  Any chance you or T3P3 will make custom length Haydn Huntley magnetic arms and sell it all as a kit with the PCB?

                                  We will certainly explore collaborating with Haydn on purchasing his mag arms in larger volumes to bundle with the effectors, once we get closer to a production version. That makes sense for people in the UK/Europe at least (it makes less sense to import them from the US just to ship them back).

                                  No, this answer says they would explore it, I'm now asking as they are almost ready to announce pricing/availability whether this will include an option on arms. If it doesn't then I can order from the US now so that I have them in good time for when the effector kits become available.

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                                    A Former User
                                    last edited by 25 Jul 2017, 09:54

                                    I have the utmost confidence in the fact that David, Tony & Roland will fully appraise us of the available combinations when they become available. no matter how infuriating it is (for me) to be waiting for the release.

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                                      dc42 administrators
                                      last edited by 25 Jul 2017, 10:59

                                      Thi is being discussed right now, but Initially I think there will be these options:

                                      1. PCB effector, carriage adapters and connector kit only. This is for customers who will not be using a E3Dv6 hot end.

                                      2. As #1 plus custom heatsink to replace the standard E3Dv6 heatsink.

                                      T3P3 (who do the order processing and shipping for Duet3D), Filastruder and some of our other distributors are also E3D resellers. So it's likely that they will provide an option to buy the rest of the E3Dv6 parts at the same time, probably with a choice of thermistor or PT100 temperature sensor.

                                      As Tony said already, we are looking at stocking Haydn's magnetic rods for the benefit of customers in the UK and Europe. I don't know whether we will have them by the time we start shipping the effector.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                        saffi
                                        last edited by 25 Jul 2017, 15:29

                                        Would it help if we pre-ordered or reserved these so a more accurate order count can be made?

                                        Also, are there advantages to using a four-wire PT100 sensor or is that mostly for extremely fine tuned temperature ranges?

                                        Prusa i3 Style Printer with Duet WiFi, E3D Volcano, Bondtech BMG

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                                          dc42 administrators
                                          last edited by 25 Jul 2017, 15:43

                                          I hope we will have news on a possible pre-order for the effector soon. We don't need to have one for the numbers, we're having plenty made because we believe it will sell well. I should have the first production units to test at the end of this week.

                                          The advantage of a 4-wire connection is that the resistance of the wires and connectors gets cancelled out so that it doesn't affect the reading. However, E3D doesn't make a 4-wire PT100 cartridge yet. So I have a 2-wire PT100 plugged into the effector, and 4 conductors in an an 8-core cable back to the Duet. The other 4 cores are used for the Z probe connections.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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