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Ooznest Workbee Z Touch Plate Support with RRF3.2.2

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    edwardp
    last edited by 18 Mar 2021, 12:27

    @dc42 I wonder if you have any further suggestions on this issue? I'm really keen to work with you to get it sorted, but without anybody seeming able to identify anything obvious in the macro, no error messages to indicate any problem on the Duet, but with a total failure of movement and a rather core function needed for every CNC toolpath I'm unsure where to go next..? Should I just write-off this approach and go with a G38 based route like @Yveske, or are there more things I can try to help you diagnose the issue?

    I was really hoping to move onto replacement Vue modules so that Ooznest customers (and others) can make use of the latest firmware 3.xx improvements (which I need for consistent laser support) and the excellent DWC-CNC work of @Sindarius (to hopefully provide a longer-term maintainable RRF3 compatible UI) - but at the moment I'm dead in the water. I obviously cannot expect customers to update their installations if I can't reproduce the existing capabilities they currently have under RRF2 & Ryan's original DWC.

    Many thanks in advance. E

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      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by 18 Mar 2021, 17:47

      I'll try and see where we're at with M585. Thanks for your patience.

      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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        dc42 administrators
        last edited by 19 Mar 2021, 08:28

        @edwardp, please try the unofficial 3.3beta2+1 build at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6203euyyobllic5/AABTHIbn7F_maK9p-oy7vq3Ea?dl=0. It's compatible with DWC for 3.3beta2.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          edwardp
          last edited by 19 Mar 2021, 15:01

          Thanks guys - @dc42 I'll flash the new firmware this weekend and report back.

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            edwardp
            last edited by edwardp 22 Mar 2021, 10:45

            On uploading and installing Duet2CombinedFirmware.bin from your zip I get the following error:

            Error: M997: In-application programming binary "0:/firmware/Duet2_SDiap32_WiFiEth.bin" not found
            

            Do I need this additional file from somewhere, it is not included in the zip above?

            E

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              dc42 administrators
              last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 10:47

              You can find that file in the 3.3beta1 and 3.2.2 releases on github.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                edwardp
                last edited by 22 Mar 2021, 11:02

                OK - thanks @dc42. I've re-uploaded alongside the WifiEth.bin from the RRF3.2.2Beta2 and confirmed the new firmware looks good:

                Board: Duet 2 Ethernet (2Ethernet)
                Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.3beta2+1 (2021-03-19) 
                

                The probe test macros, exactly as above, continues to give no error or motion I'm afraid.

                One aspect of my set-up I should be clear about is I am running the DWC-CNC-CNC02-3.2.0-RC1 (built from the tagged branch on https://github.com/Duet3D/DWC-CNC) from my local machine and connecting to the Duet2 over ethernet. I'm using this UI to upload the firmware patches and trigger the macro. This is our test machine, so it has been upgraded from RRF2 in quite a few incremental steps now. Could any of these things be a source of this problem?

                Can I just also formally confirm that my macro (as posted above) does run on the test rigs you have at your end - I'm not sure we have quite stated that explicitly so thought I should check?

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                  scrhall @edwardp
                  last edited by 3 Apr 2021, 17:52

                  @edwardp said in Ooznest Workbee Z Touch Plate Support with RRF3.2.2:

                  OK - machine up and running.

                  My probe z macros is now as follows:

                  M563 P0 S"ZProbe" ; Define a 'fake' tool (is this necessary?)
                  T0 ; set the fake tool
                  
                  M400 ; make sure we've finished any other movements
                  
                  M558 K3 P5 C"!e0stop" ; configure probe 3 as switch connected to e0stop
                  M585 Z10 F600 P3 S1 ; probe 'forward' in Z 10mm or until Probe 3 triggers
                  
                  ; Set the current workplane offset relative to this current position, backed-off 10mm 
                  ; in Z to allow for touch plate thickness
                  
                  G10 L20 Z10 
                  

                  I do not appear to have 'deployprobe.g' or 'retractprobe.g' in the system files (or macros) but I did have a 'probe.g', which definitely looks out of date so I have renamed that in case it was problematic.

                  Macro, as posted, produces no errors, response or movement. For the avoidance of doubt, the machine homes, jogs in all axis, moves under G0/G1 etc. with no apparent issues.

                  I have the same problems with my workbee

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                    edwardp
                    last edited by edwardp 4 Aug 2021, 07:39 8 Apr 2021, 07:39

                    @dc42 perhaps you could post a 'canonical' macro sample showing the commands as you intend them to be used and that you have verified at your end? If there is a typo/mistake in my macro this would help us to flush it out.

                    The set-up I (and I think many Workbee customers) have is simple and because of Ooznest's documentation: https://learn.ooznest.co.uk/Guide/Assembling+Your+Original+WorkBee+XYZ+Touch+Probe/61they should be configured pretty consistently. At this point I just need to reproduce the simplest Z probe (Step 8 ) under firmware 3.2.2 - which is needed before any CNC toolpath can be run.

                    The macro needs to drive the tool down in Z until contact with plate is made (wiring as per the link - plate is essentially an NO switch) and set Z0 in the current work-space to be this position, plus the thickness of the plate.

                    I cannot emphasise enough how core this functionality is. The Duet under RFW3.xx is not, in practical terms, usable as a CNC controller without it. It has been over a month since I raised this problem...

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                      edwardp
                      last edited by 8 Apr 2021, 07:59

                      (@scrhall thanks for checking this too, by the way, much appreciated)

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                        chimaeragh @edwardp
                        last edited by 8 Apr 2021, 09:17

                        @edwardp I had to revert back to firmware 2.0.5 due to this very reason. Though I enjoyed using some of the added functionality in RRF3.2.2 with the DWC-CNC from @Sindarius , the lack of a probing wizard like Ooznest's made me go back to Workbee Control.

                        Duet 2 Wifi, Ooznest Workbee CNC 1510

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                          Hagrid @chimaeragh
                          last edited by 8 Apr 2021, 11:43

                          @chimaeragh I'm going to stick with RRF 3.??, but I really hope that @Sindarius manages to find the time to develop a plug-in that works in the same way. There must be quite a few of us that are craving this option 🙂

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                            Sindarius @Hagrid
                            last edited by 8 Apr 2021, 17:15

                            @hagrid it is on my list, just been side tracked with some other efforts at the moment.

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                              Kane
                              last edited by 8 Apr 2021, 17:20

                              Hey I use this code and it works as desired

                              M400 ; make sure we've finished any other movements
                              
                              M558 K0 P5 F100 C"!e1stop"
                              M563 P0 S"ZProbe"
                              T0 ; set the fake tool
                               
                              M585 Z10 F600 P0 S1 ; probe 'forward' in Z 10mm or until Probe 3 triggers
                              G10 L20 Z19.5		;Set Tool Offset to 19.5mm thickness of the touch plate
                              
                              ;raise the dirll for 5mm for the second run
                              G91             	; relative positioning
                              G1 Z+5 F1000      	; go back a few mm
                              G90					;absolute positioning
                              
                              M585 Z10 F100 P0 S1 ; probe 'forward' in Z 10mm or until Probe 3 triggers
                              G10 L20 Z19.5		;Set Tool Offset to 19.5mm thickness of the touch plate
                              
                              ;raise the dirll for 20mm
                              G91             	; relative positioning
                              G1 Z+20.5 F1000     ; go back for 20mm
                              G90					;absolute positioning
                              
                              

                              But maybe I discovered a bug. If you leave out the first G10 command, the code behaves confusing. After the first pass, the z-axis run down in the ground for maybe 20mm and then perform the second probing. The raise for 5mm don`t seems to be performed. Maybe someone else can reproduce that.

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                                Hagrid @Sindarius
                                last edited by 8 Apr 2021, 22:41

                                @sindarius No worries. Good things are worth waiting for 😉

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                                  scrhall
                                  last edited by scrhall 4 Nov 2021, 09:49 11 Apr 2021, 09:47

                                  I use this macro, i found it on the forum. its working for now

                                  ; Z Probing macro
                                  
                                  M400                                ; wait for current movement to finish
                                  
                                  M291 P"Make sure the probe is connected and the Endmill is on top of the probe" R"Warning" S3   ; warning message
                                  
                                  G91                                 ; set relative position
                                  G30 S-1
                                  M400
                                  G10 L20 Z19.1                         ; set Z offset to 19.1
                                  G1 Z10
                                  
                                  M291 P"Probing complete on the CURRENT WCS. Please remove probe." R"Success" S1    ; screen message```
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                                    edwardp @Kane
                                    last edited by edwardp 14 Apr 2021, 13:36

                                    @kane - that seems to work for me! Many thanks. I simply changed the e1stop for the e0stop on my machine, but apart from that it seems to now run as I originally expected. There are a number of differences between our versions (we have commands in a different order and I use a different probe and dummy tool number, for example). I'll go through them line now and see if I can identify the precise problem with my original macro. I'll also see if I can confirm the other issue you mention.

                                    Thanks again!

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