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    lars
    last edited by 19 Aug 2017, 09:36

    I needed a longer cable for my PanelDue and I thought I would try using cat6 cable and keystone connectors.
    The duet3d wiki states the resistance per conductor should not exceed 0.1 ohm. I have seen dc loop resistance figures from 10-20 ohm for 100m. For “non loop” 1m that would be 0.05-0.1 ohm.
    I connected ground (black) to each of the four pairs and the red, blue and green to the other conductor in the pairs (one conductor left unused). Don’t know if this is the best way to do it? I guess I could have use one pair for each colour and should get half the resistance…? Anyway, I tested with a 3m cable which will probably put me over 0.1 ohm but everything appears to work.

    Might be something others can consider if they have a big printer and need longer cable.

    Now I need to design a better case for it.

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      dc42 administrators
      last edited by 19 Aug 2017, 12:22

      It's the ground wire that is most critical, so that's a good way of doing it. I suggest you use the spare conductor as another power conductor. The resistance of the two data wires is much less critical.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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        lars
        last edited by 19 Aug 2017, 15:47

        Thank you David! I should have asked before I hooked it up 🙂
        If theres a problem with my current setup I'll redo the power and use the last conductor…

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          WalterSKW
          last edited by 29 Aug 2017, 12:09

          I also needed around 2m of cable length.
          I used 2 thicker wires for the ground and 5V supply
          Data : AWG26
          Power and ground : AWG22
          Protected by a braided cable sleeve.
          No issues at all.

          You could use 2 twisted pairs for data each 1 data, 1 ground
          1 pair for ground and 5V and 1 pair for 5V.
          If you use shielded cable : shield to ground too.
          Pairs have same colour marking.

          Brian once said: "Always look at the bright side of life"
          Works for me!

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            strips
            last edited by 29 Aug 2017, 12:52

            @WalterSKW:

            You could use 2 twisted pairs for data each 1 data, 1 ground
            1 pair for ground and 5V and 1 pair for 5V.
            If you use shielded cable : shield to ground too.
            Pairs have same colour marking.

            I would have 5V/GND twisted x 2 instead of having two GND twisted and two 5V twisted. The whole point with TP is that they do not pick up as much noise. Still this is probably not an issue anyhow but why not use a cable for what its worth.

            Ender 5 Plus, E3D Bigbox Dual

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              olee
              last edited by 29 Aug 2017, 13:06

              @WalterSKW:

              I would have 5V/GND twisted x 2 instead of having two GND twisted and two 5V twisted. The whole point with TP is that they do not pick up as much noise. Still this is probably not an issue anyhow but why not use a cable for what its worth.

              It would be even better to make data twisted pairs as DIN/GND and DOUT/5V to distribute power supply among wires evenly.

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                lars
                last edited by 3 Feb 2018, 17:38

                I redid the wiring as David suggested and finally took the time to design a case for the PanelDuo.
                I did a mount that lets you put it anywhere on a horizontal 40x40 alu extrusion. The three meter cat6 cables gives great range.
                I printed it in PLA 0.6 nozzle and 0.3 layer hieght.

                I'm pretty happy with the result.

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                  garyd9
                  last edited by 3 Feb 2018, 18:13

                  Amazing work. I ended up putting a JST SM connector pair on my panelDue so I could detach it for firmware updates… it never occurred to me to use cat6... that would have been much more elegant.

                  "I'm not saying that you are wrong - I'm just trying to fit it into my real world simulated experience."

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