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    • Hergonowayundefined
      Hergonoway
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      It's time for me to prepare wiring 🙂

      so I've got a 2 wires PT100, with everything under 24v, from what I see I can use one of my 6 wire cable for Molex KK, 22AWG will do the job.

      But what about the Molex Microfit, I would like to use the same cable but could I use a 22AWG for the extruder heater ? I currently have a 40w 24v cartridge, from my point of view it's OK, but I'll prefer a second advice 🙂

      Delta goes BrrrRRRRrrrrrRRRRrrr

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      • oleeundefined
        olee
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        @Hergonoway:

        It's time for me to prepare wiring 🙂

        so I've got a 2 wires PT100, with everything under 24v, from what I see I can use one of my 6 wire cable for Molex KK, 22AWG will do the job.

        But what about the Molex Microfit, I would like to use the same cable but could I use a 22AWG for the extruder heater ? I currently have a 40w 24v cartridge, from my point of view it's OK, but I'll prefer a second advice 🙂

        1.7A current is well within ampacity of 22AWG for chassis wiring. And voltage drop of 0.2V is not much of concern for the case.

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
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          My plan was to use fairly thin 8 core multicore cable for the signal connection (4 wire PT100 connection from the effector back to the Duet), and use the same cable for the heater/fan connector with 2 conductors in parallel for each of the heater wires. In the end I didn't change the heater and fan wires because they were already working well. I can't remember what gauge the conductors were, but the resistance per conductor was just under 0.1ohm per metre.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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          • inachisiojexusundefined
            inachisiojexus
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            @CaLviNx:

            I need the distance from the centre of the hole to the short edge of the effector

            x = 5.75 * sqrt(2) * cos(15) ~= 7.8546460717605222188914082318294

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            • A Former User?
              A Former User
              last edited by

              I had the dimensions worked out, I just wanted Tony's confirmation.

              And suddenly a lot of non Tony's jumped in !!!!

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              • DADIYundefined
                DADIY
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                For the cabling, I was planning on using 6 core 22awg for the heater and fan connections,

                6 Core - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flexible-2-3-4-5-6-Multicore-Cable-AWG-Black-Signal-Power-Auto-Data-Car-Wire-UK/281776562442

                and then for the PT100 and probe connections, I have lots of stranded cat 6 that I can use. Hopefully, the probe and the PT100 won't interfere with each other? Any thoughts?

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
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                  The probe and the PT100 signals don't interfere with each other. The 8-core cable I used was this http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/multicore-industrial-cable/6604052/?sra=pstk.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                  • oleeundefined
                    olee
                    last edited by

                    @dc42:

                    My plan was to use fairly thin 8 core multicore cable for the signal connection (4 wire PT100 connection from the effector back to the Duet), and use the same cable for the heater/fan connector with 2 conductors in parallel for each of the heater wires. In the end I didn't change the heater and fan wires because they were already working well. I can't remember what gauge the conductors were, but the resistance per conductor was just under 0.1ohm per metre.

                    David, how about crimping two wires in one Microfit pin, does it fit?

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                    • inachisiojexusundefined
                      inachisiojexus
                      last edited by

                      @dc42:

                      The probe and the PT100 signals don't interfere with each other. The 8-core cable I used was this http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/multicore-industrial-cable/6604052/?sra=pstk.

                      Just to be sure; So you particularly recommend against tinning only on the ends of the cables from PSU that power the board, not on the 24V (or 12V?) terminals going from the board to the heaters?

                      In reference to third paragraph at Wiki: Power wiring

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
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                        It's best not to tin any of the wires that you are going to put into the terminal blocks. Crimp the ferrules supplied on the ends instead. It's OK to use pre-tinned copper wire because the tin coating is so thin.

                        In practice, tinning the ends of the heater wires before putting them in the terminal block is not so likely to cause problems, because they heat up less than for the VIN terminal block.

                        If you have tinned any wires before putting into the terminal blocks, tighten up the screws after every few hours of use. Eventually the solder will have moved out of the way and the screws will stop loosening.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                        • Dougal1957undefined
                          Dougal1957
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                          @DADIY:

                          For the cabling, I was planning on using 6 core 22awg for the heater and fan connections,

                          6 Core - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flexible-2-3-4-5-6-Multicore-Cable-AWG-Black-Signal-Power-Auto-Data-Car-Wire-UK/281776562442

                          and then for the PT100 and probe connections, I have lots of stranded cat 6 that I can use. Hopefully, the probe and the PT100 won't interfere with each other? Any thoughts?

                          I used 2 lengths of Stranded Cat5e UTP on mine with the heater connections using 2 pairs work fine.

                          Doug

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                          • Jareryundefined
                            Jarery
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                            Did they go up on the site and all sell out already ?

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                            • Dougal1957undefined
                              Dougal1957
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                              No they are on the site ready for stocks to arrive hopefully early next week

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                              • botundefined
                                bot
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                                @CaLviNx:

                                I had the dimensions worked out, I just wanted Tony's confirmation.

                                And suddenly a lot of non Tony's jumped in !!!!

                                If you wanted to ask only Tony, maybe you should email or PM him. This dimension is likely a result of other dimensions, and their tolerances. I imagine the tolerances are +/-0.1 mm, so the answer you are seeking is not a fixed value.

                                *not actually a robot

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                                • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                  T3P3Tony administrators
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                                  @CaLviNx:

                                  …..

                                  The Last missing part of the puzzle (for me anyway) I have highlighted, I need the distance from the centre of the hole to the short edge of the effector

                                  Please accept my apologies if it's out there and I have missed it

                                  Good spot

                                  Its 8mm I will update the documentation when i get a chance.

                                  bot yes there are tolerances to all dimensions which i have not specified in my diagrams because i have not measured them over a batch of boards.

                                  www.duet3d.com

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                                  • Hergonowayundefined
                                    Hergonoway
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                                    Hope there'll be stock on Monday wink wink

                                    Delta goes BrrrRRRRrrrrrRRRRrrr

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                                    • A Former User?
                                      A Former User
                                      last edited by

                                      @Hergonoway:

                                      Hope there'll be stock on Monday wink wink

                                      I could reply but I think what I could tell you would just cheese you off 😛

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                                      • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                        T3P3Tony administrators
                                        last edited by

                                        We are testing some right now 😄

                                        www.duet3d.com

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                                        • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                          T3P3Tony administrators
                                          last edited by

                                          I have put limited stock up on the website (what we have tested tonight) 😄

                                          We will test more tomorrow so if it goes out of stock tonight, don't worry we should get more up tomorrow.

                                          www.duet3d.com

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                                          • Dougal1957undefined
                                            Dougal1957
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                                            Thanks Tony Order placed.

                                            Doug

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