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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by

      I get the sense that your Duet3 and Pi image are from the early days of RRF3, so a fresh download of Duet Pi would be a good idea.

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      • Shinomoriundefined
        Shinomori @Phaedrux
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        @phaedrux It was definitely very early. I'm not having any luck with yat or pronterface talking direct to the duet. I'll try flashing a new duet pi image and see how that does.

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by Phaedrux

          When you flashed with Bossa was it able to read back and verify the firmware?

          Does the duet show up in device manager as a USB device?

          If we're still unable to get communication between the duet and Pi it might be beneficial to setup an SD card to use the Duet in standalone mode. If the Duet is connected to ethernet and there is a M552 S1 command in config.g to enable networking, and the DWC files are present in the /www folder you should be able to access DWC directly by IP address.

          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Getting_Started_With_Duet_3#Section_Running_in_standalone_mode

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          • Shinomoriundefined
            Shinomori @Phaedrux
            last edited by

            @phaedrux Connected with Bossa. Under info I get.

            Hmmm I'm not sure the bossa flash is working. it keeps closing when I try to run something on it so i get no verifications.

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            • Shinomoriundefined
              Shinomori @Shinomori
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              @shinomori Our duet and pi are mounted on the ceiling with only power going to it. connecting to it over a wifi hotspot on phone.

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                The Duet3 can be pretty picky about the USB cable for flashing.

                Given your situation of being a bit remote and the install being a bit hard to reach our options are either getting a better USb cable or trying to setup an SD card for standalone mode provided the Duet3 still has firmware on it and hasn't been erased yet. Did you use the erase jumper?

                What does the Duet show up as in the Device manager?

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                • Shinomoriundefined
                  Shinomori @Phaedrux
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                  @phaedrux

                  Ok I've got the duet and the pi sitting on my desk now for easier work. I downloaded the firmware again. Plugged in with new usb that was in the box with the duet.

                  Shows connected to "ATSAME70x20" on com8. Try flashing "Duet3Firmware_MB6HC.bin". And I get a flash command failed error. Tried jumper on erase pins and reset button, but the diag light always stays just dimly lit. I'm messing up somewhere.

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
                    last edited by Phaedrux

                    @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                       I'm messing up  somewhere.
                    

                    Following these steps?

                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Getting_Started_With_Duet_3#Section_To_update_via_USB_using_a_Windows_host

                    Using the Pi itself is also explained there.

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators @Shinomori
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                      @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                      Shows connected to "ATSAME70x20" on com8. Try flashing "Duet3Firmware_MB6HC.bin". And I get a flash command failed error. Tried jumper on erase pins and reset button, but the diag light always stays just dimly lit.

                      This typically means there is a USB comms issue. The bootloader puts the USB into full speed mode (I've no idea why) so the USB cable and port are quite critical. Try a different USB port on the PC, or a different USB cable. Also be aware of the possibility of USB ground loops (using a laptop running from its internal battery to do the programming is a good way to avoid them).

                      The Erase jumper must be removed before you do the actual programming.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                      • Shinomoriundefined
                        Shinomori @dc42
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                        @dc42 Ok I followed that set of instructions and it seems to have worked.

                        m115
                        FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.3 ELECTRONICS: Duet 3 MB6HC v0.6 or 1.0 FIRMWARE_DATE: 2021-06-15 21:45:56

                        After copying all my old config files back on I am getting this error sitting on the bench with only duet and pi:

                        Error: M669: Wrong number of values after '''D''', expected 3
                        

                        Also can't connect to "duet3.local", but ip address works.
                        Here is config:
                        ; General preferences
                        G91 ; send relative coordinates...
                        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                        M550 P"duet3" ; set printer name

                        ; Drives
                        M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                        M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                        M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
                        M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                        M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
                        M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 U0.4 ; set drive mapping
                        M669 K6 A0.0:-2265.0:0.0 B1725.0:1100.0:0.0 C-1740.0:1120.0:0.0 D2666.0 P1500.0
                        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                        M92 X92.90 Y92.90 Z92.90 E396.00 U93.00 ; set steps per mm
                        M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z900.00 E120.00 U900.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                        M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z6000.00 E1200.00 U6000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                        M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z500.00 E250.00 U500.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                        M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 U1000 I60 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                        ; Axis Limits
                        M208 Z-05 S1 ; set axis minima
                        M208 Z1500 S0 ; set axis maxima

                        ; Endstops
                        ; WARNING: No endstops configured

                        ; Z-Probe
                        M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000 ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                        ;M557 X50:950 Y50:950 S200 ; define mesh grid

                        ; Heaters
                        M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
                        M950 H0 C"out1" T0 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
                        M143 H0 S270 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 270C
                        M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                        M140 H-1

                        ; Fans
                        M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
                        M106 P0 S0 H0 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                        M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
                        M106 P1 S0 H0 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

                        ; Tools
                        M563 P0 S"Extruder" D0.3 H0 F0 ; define tool 0
                        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                        G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                        ; Custom settings are not defined
                        M564 S0 H0 ;allow move without homing
                        M557 R400 S200
                        ; Miscellaneous
                        M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                        T0 ; select first tool

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                        • JoergS5undefined
                          JoergS5 @Shinomori
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                          @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                          Error: M669: Wrong number of values after '''D''', expected 3

                          RRF3.3 needs 3 parameters for D. RRF 3.01 eg didn't check the number of values of the D parameter, so the config is from an older RRF version. Better control of the anchor is a new feature of 3.3: https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/wiki/Changelog-RRF-3.x#reprapfirmware-33 "M669 when using Hangprinter kinematics now allows the XY coordinates of the D anchor to be specified". The "line build-up compensation" new feature sounds interesting also, whatever it is.

                          Documentation of https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareHangprinter is not current, you should set D0.0:0.0:2666.0 now.
                          The old D was only Z: "Dzzz Z coordinate of the D anchor (the XY coordinates of the D anchor are 0,0)".

                          I wonder why you don't have a M350 value for U (microstep value).

                          Also can't connect to "duet3.local", but ip address works.

                          duet3.local is a name which must be mapped to the IP address somewhere (where depends on your operating system). Maybe you changed the IP address in the past or used a second duet. Anyway, I would take the IP address for all accesses.

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
                            last edited by

                            @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                            Also can't connect to "duet3.local", but ip address works.

                            Is the SBC host name also duet3? Did you burn a fresh SD card with DuetPi as well?

                            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/SBC_Setup_for_Duet_3#Section_Troubleshooting

                            You can also check for syntax errors in your config with M98 P"config.g"

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                            • Shinomoriundefined
                              Shinomori
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                              Thanks. I'll have to take a look through the changelog.

                              I did reflash the Pi SD card to the newest version and then run update/upgrade. Hostname on pi is duet3 and it does show up as that when I scan the network to find the ip address to connect to. Not too concerned about that one other than it was working before and now is not and that knowledge might help with diagnosing some change. scanning for ip and connecting is not much of a problem.

                              Should be remounting the boards and doing some more testing tomorrow.

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                              • Shinomoriundefined
                                Shinomori
                                last edited by Shinomori

                                Ok I tried to do a g29 to do a manual mesh level. This was working before where I would manually check nozzle height at each point.

                                Now after setting the mesh parameters I get for all points:
                                Warning: Skipping grid point X=0.0, Y=-100.0 because Z probe cannot reach it

                                Is it still possible to do it manually on this version?
                                m115
                                FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.3 ELECTRONICS: Duet 3 MB6HC v0.6 or 1.0 FIRMWARE_DATE: 2021-06-15 21:45:56

                                Config.g:
                                ; General preferences
                                G91 ; send relative coordinates...
                                M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                M550 P"duet3" ; set printer name

                                ; Drives
                                M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                                M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                                M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
                                M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                                M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
                                M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 U0.4 ; set drive mapping
                                M669 K6 A0.0:-2265.0:0.0 B1725.0:1100.0:0.0 C-1740.0:1120.0:0.0 D0.0:0.0:2666.0 P1500.0
                                M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 U16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                M92 X92.90 Y92.90 Z92.90 E396.00 U93.00 ; set steps per mm
                                M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z900.00 E120.00 U900.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z6000.00 E1200.00 U6000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z500.00 E250.00 U500.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 U1000 I60 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                ; Axis Limits
                                M208 Z-05 S1 ; set axis minima
                                M208 Z1500 S0 ; set axis maxima

                                ; Endstops
                                ; WARNING: No endstops configured

                                ; Z-Probe
                                M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000 ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                                ;M557 X50:950 Y50:950 S200 ; define mesh grid

                                ; Heaters
                                M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
                                M950 H0 C"out1" T0 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
                                M143 H0 S270 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 270C
                                M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                                M140 H-1

                                ; Fans
                                M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
                                M106 P0 S0 H0 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
                                M106 P1 S0 H0 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

                                ; Tools
                                M563 P0 S"Extruder" D0.3 H0 F0 ; define tool 0
                                G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                ; Custom settings are not defined
                                M564 S0 H0 ;allow move without homing
                                M557 R400 S200
                                ; Miscellaneous
                                M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                                T0 ; select first tool

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
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                                  @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                                  M557 R400 S200

                                  Can you try a smaller spacing?

                                  Does a G30 work to probe the surface once first to establish a Z0 point?

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                                  • Shinomoriundefined
                                    Shinomori @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by

                                    @phaedrux
                                    G30 did work. Manual probe window came up.
                                    G29 still threw the same error for all points. Didn't move at all.

                                    Mesh is set through ui to -100 to 100 on x and y with 100 mm spacing.

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
                                      last edited by Phaedrux

                                      @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                                      Mesh is set through ui to -100 to 100 on x and y with 100 mm spacing.

                                      Yet your config has M557 R400 S200.

                                      Can you send M557 in the gcode console and see what it reports back?

                                      I'm not familiar enough with hang printers to know if it uses a delta style radius or a grid style like a cartesian.

                                      You might also be the first person doing mesh compensation with a hand printer on 3.3+SBC.

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                                        Shinomori @Phaedrux
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                                        @phaedrux
                                        m557
                                        Grid: X-100.0:100.0, Y-100.0:100.0, radius -1.0, X spacing 100.0, Y spacing 100.0, 9 points

                                        I am also not sure which mesh style is correct. The build area ends up being circular which is why I have a large radius mesh in the config. I am setting a smaller one with fewer points on the web ui for testing and it asks for grid style coords.
                                        With the older FW it would run through the points with either radius or grid.

                                        I suspect there are alot of firsts on this build. Unfortunately I haven't learned how to dig through the git or firmware to figure out what is happening underneath myself so I really appreciate the help.

                                        So on interesting thing happening that I don't know what to make of. If I set the height with some paper and then do a g92 to set zeros. I can move the print head all over 200-300 mm in all directions and then send it back to zero and the tension on the paper hasn't changed. If I do a G30, then try to go to Z0. It is over half mm too low.

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
                                          last edited by Phaedrux

                                          Can you send G31 and see what it says? I don't see one in your config.g so I think it's using default values which would explain the differences when using G30. This might also be what is messing up the G29 since it uses it as well.

                                          I suggest you add a G31 command to your config below the M558 for the probe definition.

                                          G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0 should do it since you're using the nozzle tip and manual probing.

                                          You can also check for syntax errors in your config with M98 P"config.g"

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                                          • Shinomoriundefined
                                            Shinomori @Phaedrux
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                                            @phaedrux
                                            Ok updated config with g31.

                                            G30 now ends up with good spacing afterwards. Good call.

                                            M98 returns no errors. G29 still returns error for all points:
                                            Warning: Skipping grid point X=100.0, Y=100.0 because Z probe cannot reach it

                                            Updated config.g:
                                            ; General preferences
                                            G91 ; send relative coordinates...
                                            M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                            M550 P"duet3" ; set printer name

                                            ; Drives
                                            M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                                            M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                                            M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
                                            M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                                            M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
                                            M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 U0.4 ; set drive mapping
                                            M669 K6 A0.0:-2265.0:0.0 B1725.0:1100.0:0.0 C-1740.0:1120.0:0.0 D0.0:0.0:2666.0 P1500.0
                                            M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 U16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                            M92 X92.90 Y92.90 Z92.90 E396.00 U93.00 ; set steps per mm
                                            M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z900.00 E120.00 U900.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                            M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z6000.00 E1200.00 U6000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                            M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z500.00 E250.00 U500.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                            M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 U1000 I60 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                            M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                            ; Axis Limits
                                            M208 Z-05 S1 ; set axis minima
                                            M208 Z1500 S0 ; set axis maxima

                                            ; Endstops
                                            ; WARNING: No endstops configured

                                            ; Z-Probe
                                            M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                                            G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0
                                            ;M557 R400 S200
                                            M557 X-100:100 Y-100:100 S100 ; define mesh grid

                                            ; Heaters
                                            M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
                                            M950 H0 C"out1" T0 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
                                            M143 H0 S270 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 270C
                                            M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                                            M140 H-1

                                            ; Fans
                                            M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
                                            M106 P0 S0 H0 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                            M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
                                            M106 P1 S0 H0 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

                                            ; Tools
                                            M563 P0 S"Extruder" D0.3 H0 F0 ; define tool 0
                                            G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                            G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                            ; Custom settings are not defined
                                            M564 S0 H0 ;allow move without homing
                                            ; Miscellaneous
                                            M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                                            T0 ; select first tool

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