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    dc42 administrators @CadetC
    last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 10:31

    @cadetc thanks.

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      JenPet @dc42
      last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 13:57

      @dc42 I have also tested new version but can't see any improvement

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        dc42 administrators @JenPet
        last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 14:49

        @jenpet I have just found one cause of the issue with PA. I'll have a new binary soon.

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          dc42 administrators
          last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 16:12

          @JenPet @skrotz @MikeS I have updated the binaries at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja08b7qdzsl8kjc/AAAwUbkN2XJvurq5CuQTgx5Wa?dl=0. This version does not give rise to hiccups in my tests.

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            JenPet @dc42
            last edited by JenPet 8 Feb 2021, 16:34 2 Aug 2021, 16:33

            @dc42 PA is still not working for me.

            === Move ===
            DMs created 83, segments created 42, maxWait 206756ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
            === MainDDARing ===
            Scheduled moves 2700, completed moves 2700, hiccups 0, stepErrors 578, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
            === AuxDDARing ===
            Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
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              dc42 administrators @JenPet
              last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 16:44

              @jenpet please check the firmware date using M115, which should be this afternoon.

              To reproduce this, I will need your config.g file and the GCode file you are printing.

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                JenPet @dc42
                last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 16:48

                @dc42 Firmware date is ok

                M115
                FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.4.0beta2-inputshaping ELECTRONICS: Duet WiFi 1.02 or later FIRMWARE_DATE: 2021-08-02 16:26:18

                config.g
                40x40x40_Cube_140mms0.08.gcode

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                  skrotz @dc42
                  last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 16:57

                  @dc42 just starting a print but definite improvement so far. Clunkiness is at least greatly reduced, if not gone. Will see how the print looks in a bit. Sounds much more normal.

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                    dc42 administrators @JenPet
                    last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 17:08

                    @jenpet I don't see any M572 command in config.g. Are you running without pressure advance?

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                      JenPet @dc42
                      last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 17:12

                      @dc42 M572 is in the start script of gcode

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                        dc42 administrators @JenPet
                        last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 17:14

                        @jenpet ok, I am running your file now.

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                          Adrian52 @dc42
                          last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 17:18

                          @dc42 just completed cal cube with ei3 and 0.8 pa, no clunking, nice finish - 0 hiccups, 0 errors, 0 underruns. Brilliant - thank you.

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                            dc42 administrators @JenPet
                            last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 17:22

                            @jenpet I am getting the step errors now. Looking into it.

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                              skrotz @dc42
                              last edited by skrotz 8 Feb 2021, 17:46 2 Aug 2021, 17:44

                              @dc42 Happy to report significant improvement with this build printing with PA enabled and ei2 input shaping on. As mentioned clunking is greatly improved, and the print quality is significantly better. No major extrusion issues or jaggedness. There are a few layers, for example on the right side of the X (notably near the middle of it) on the calibration cube that seem slightly misaligned or overextruded, and are noticeably different from a 3.3 print. I do also notice that the X and Y of the calibration cube seem noticeably wider than previous prints. I suspect though that these issues are getting into the nitty gritty of input shaping, and away from the egregious bugs I was seeing, which seem fixed so far with this build.

                              I will try and do some more test prints today with various things enabled/disabled to gather more data for you. Many thanks for the rapid fixes!

                              oh and M122 reports no hiccups or errors on this print:

                              === Move ===
                              DMs created 83, segments created 35, maxWait 54915ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
                              === MainDDARing ===
                              Scheduled moves 11545, completed moves 11545, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
                              === AuxDDARing ===
                              Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1

                              RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.4.0beta2-inputshaping (2021-08-02 17:37:04) running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5

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                                dc42 administrators @skrotz
                                last edited by dc42 8 Feb 2021, 17:58 2 Aug 2021, 17:56

                                @skrotz thanks for your feedback.

                                @skrotz said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

                                I do also notice that the X and Y of the calibration cube seem noticeably wider than previous prints.

                                Is that with input shaping disabled, or enabled? I do expect there to be slight extrusion differences when input shaping is used. I do not expect there to be significant differences from RRF 3.3 when input shaping is set to none in 3.4 and DAA is disabled in 3.3.

                                There will be a further update when I have fixed the step errors seen by JenPet, which I have reproduced

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                                  skrotz @dc42
                                  last edited by skrotz 8 Feb 2021, 18:09 2 Aug 2021, 18:03

                                  @dc42 The print was with input shaping enabled:

                                  M593 P"ei2" F41 S0.10

                                  I'll try and do some more prints with input shaping and PA disabled in various combinations and see how they compare.

                                  To my eye, the width of the X and Y changing seems likely to be due to input shaping.. not necessarily bugs, but just artifacts of the movement changes happening with ei2 input shaping on. The lines that look slightly misaligned or over extruded after the X feel more like a bug that is still rattling around. More prints with various knobs on and off should help identify that potentially.

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                                    dc42 administrators @skrotz
                                    last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 18:38

                                    @skrotz I've just found and I believe fixed the bug that was affecting JenPet. It might cause slight extrusion errors on other machines using PA. New binary coming soon.

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                                      dc42 administrators @dc42
                                      last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 18:49

                                      @skrotz @jenpet I've put new binaries at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja08b7qdzsl8kjc/AAAwUbkN2XJvurq5CuQTgx5Wa?dl=0.

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                                        JenPet @dc42
                                        last edited by JenPet 8 Feb 2021, 19:33 2 Aug 2021, 19:25

                                        @dc42 Thank you but I still get the issue

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                                          dc42 administrators @JenPet
                                          last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 19:34

                                          @jenpet please run M115 to check tbatb you really do have the latest version installed. It should report:

                                          FIRMWARE_DATE: 2021-08-02 19:33:23

                                          I ran your print and had zero step errors using this version, instead of lots of step errors using the previous version.

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