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    dc42 administrators @CadetC
    last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 08:12

    @cadetc said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

    @dc42 said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

    @cadetc said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

    @dc42 said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

    I've identified and fixed some issues affecting extrusion with pressure advannce, and updated the binaries at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja08b7qdzsl8kjc/AAAwUbkN2XJvurq5CuQTgx5Wa?dl=0 again.

    Same problem as with previous binaries - after starting a print, the status immediately shows that the print is 100% complete - when I click emergency stop, DWC hangs up and I have to physically cut power to reset the printer

    Did you check for error messages in the console?

    no error codes -All in all, the print sequence is OK, first the table heats up, then noozle and the print starts - even though the status from the very beginning shows the print as 100% complete - I think there is a bug with the layer count so DWC indicates the print as 100% complete

    Please provide the print file and your config.g file.

    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      chrishamm administrators @CadetC
      last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 08:16

      @cadetc RRF 3.4-b2pre isn't compatible with the DSF version from the unstable package feed. We'll update the package feed as soon as the remaining issues with IS/PA are confirmed to be fixed.

      Duet software engineer

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        CadetC @dc42
        last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 10:31

        @dc42 said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

        Please provide the print file and your config.g file.

        Below my config.g and print file

        tension, cover, bltouch_32m.g
        config (5).g

        ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
        ; executed by the firmware on start-up
        ;
        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Sat Apr 17 2021 20:39:32 GMT+0200 (czas środkowoeuropejski letni)
        ; General preferences
        G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
        M550 P"Duet 3" ; set printer name
        M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode
        G4 S5 ;wait for expansion boards to start
        ; Drives
        M569 P0.5 S0 ; x axis physical drive 0.5 goes forward
        M569 P0.4 S0 ; y axis physical drive 0.4 goes forward
        M569 P0.2 S1 ; Fron right bed physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
        M569 P121.0 S1 ;extruder physical drive 121.0 goes forwards
        M569 P0.0 S1 ; Front left bed physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
        M569 P0.1 S1 ; Rear bed physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
        M584 X0.5 Y0.4 Z0.0:0.1:0.2 E121.0 ; set drive mapping
        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
        M92 X160.00 Y160.00 Z800.00 E409.00 ; set steps per mm
        M566 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z30.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
        M203 X30000.00 Y30000.00 Z1800.00 E3000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
        M201 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z200.00 E2000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
        M906 X2000 Y2000 Z1200 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
        M671 X-27.4:147.5:322.4 Y-4.5:324.5:-4.5 S20
        ; Axis Limits
        M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
        M208 X290 Y280 Z290 S0 ; set axis maxima
        M955 P121.0 I41
        ; Endstops
        M574 X2 S1 P"121.io1.in" ; configure active-high endstop for high end on X via pin 121.io1.in
        M574 Y1 S1 P"io1.in" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin io1.in
        M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
        ; Z-Probe
        M950 S0 C"121.io0.out" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
        M558 P9 C"^121.io0.in" H15 F240 T9000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
        G31 P500 X-1 Y-32 Z2.50 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
        M557 X10:290 Y3:290 S30 ; define mesh grid
        ; Heaters
        M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
        M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
        M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
        M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
        M143 H0 S130 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 130C
        M308 S1 P"121.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin 121.temp0
        M950 H1 C"121.out0" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on 121.out0 and map it to sensor 1
        M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
        M143 H1 S300 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C
        ; Fans
        M950 F0 C"out7" Q25000 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
        M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
        M950 F1 C"121.out2" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin 121.out2 and set its frequency
        M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
        ; Tools
        M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
        G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
        T0 ; select first hot end
        ; Miscellaneous
        M572 D0 S0.022 ;enable pressure advance value of 0.022
        M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
        M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
        M911 S22 R23.5 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

        I have no problems with the July 28 beta bin
        Duet3Firmware_MB6HC-28-07.bin

        Print status problem started with the August 1 beta bin
        Duet3Firmware_MB6HC-1-08.bin

        But as chrishamm said

        RRF 3.4-b2pre isn't compatible with the DSF version from the unstable package feed. We'll update the package feed as soon as the remaining issues with IS/PA are confirmed to be fixed.

        Problem lays with incompatibilie DSF - only surprised me why works with ver. 28-07 but not with ver. 1-08

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          dc42 administrators @CadetC
          last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 10:31

          @cadetc thanks.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            JenPet @dc42
            last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 13:57

            @dc42 I have also tested new version but can't see any improvement

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              dc42 administrators @JenPet
              last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 14:49

              @jenpet I have just found one cause of the issue with PA. I'll have a new binary soon.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                dc42 administrators
                last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 16:12

                @JenPet @skrotz @MikeS I have updated the binaries at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja08b7qdzsl8kjc/AAAwUbkN2XJvurq5CuQTgx5Wa?dl=0. This version does not give rise to hiccups in my tests.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  JenPet @dc42
                  last edited by JenPet 8 Feb 2021, 16:34 2 Aug 2021, 16:33

                  @dc42 PA is still not working for me.

                  === Move ===
                  DMs created 83, segments created 42, maxWait 206756ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                  === MainDDARing ===
                  Scheduled moves 2700, completed moves 2700, hiccups 0, stepErrors 578, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
                  === AuxDDARing ===
                  Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
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                    dc42 administrators @JenPet
                    last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 16:44

                    @jenpet please check the firmware date using M115, which should be this afternoon.

                    To reproduce this, I will need your config.g file and the GCode file you are printing.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      JenPet @dc42
                      last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 16:48

                      @dc42 Firmware date is ok

                      M115
                      FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.4.0beta2-inputshaping ELECTRONICS: Duet WiFi 1.02 or later FIRMWARE_DATE: 2021-08-02 16:26:18

                      config.g
                      40x40x40_Cube_140mms0.08.gcode

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                        skrotz @dc42
                        last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 16:57

                        @dc42 just starting a print but definite improvement so far. Clunkiness is at least greatly reduced, if not gone. Will see how the print looks in a bit. Sounds much more normal.

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                          dc42 administrators @JenPet
                          last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 17:08

                          @jenpet I don't see any M572 command in config.g. Are you running without pressure advance?

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            JenPet @dc42
                            last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 17:12

                            @dc42 M572 is in the start script of gcode

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                              dc42 administrators @JenPet
                              last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 17:14

                              @jenpet ok, I am running your file now.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                Adrian52 @dc42
                                last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 17:18

                                @dc42 just completed cal cube with ei3 and 0.8 pa, no clunking, nice finish - 0 hiccups, 0 errors, 0 underruns. Brilliant - thank you.

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                                  dc42 administrators @JenPet
                                  last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 17:22

                                  @jenpet I am getting the step errors now. Looking into it.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                    skrotz @dc42
                                    last edited by skrotz 8 Feb 2021, 17:46 2 Aug 2021, 17:44

                                    @dc42 Happy to report significant improvement with this build printing with PA enabled and ei2 input shaping on. As mentioned clunking is greatly improved, and the print quality is significantly better. No major extrusion issues or jaggedness. There are a few layers, for example on the right side of the X (notably near the middle of it) on the calibration cube that seem slightly misaligned or overextruded, and are noticeably different from a 3.3 print. I do also notice that the X and Y of the calibration cube seem noticeably wider than previous prints. I suspect though that these issues are getting into the nitty gritty of input shaping, and away from the egregious bugs I was seeing, which seem fixed so far with this build.

                                    I will try and do some more test prints today with various things enabled/disabled to gather more data for you. Many thanks for the rapid fixes!

                                    oh and M122 reports no hiccups or errors on this print:

                                    === Move ===
                                    DMs created 83, segments created 35, maxWait 54915ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
                                    === MainDDARing ===
                                    Scheduled moves 11545, completed moves 11545, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
                                    === AuxDDARing ===
                                    Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1

                                    RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.4.0beta2-inputshaping (2021-08-02 17:37:04) running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5

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                                      dc42 administrators @skrotz
                                      last edited by dc42 8 Feb 2021, 17:58 2 Aug 2021, 17:56

                                      @skrotz thanks for your feedback.

                                      @skrotz said in RRF 3.4 input shaping preview available:

                                      I do also notice that the X and Y of the calibration cube seem noticeably wider than previous prints.

                                      Is that with input shaping disabled, or enabled? I do expect there to be slight extrusion differences when input shaping is used. I do not expect there to be significant differences from RRF 3.3 when input shaping is set to none in 3.4 and DAA is disabled in 3.3.

                                      There will be a further update when I have fixed the step errors seen by JenPet, which I have reproduced

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        skrotz @dc42
                                        last edited by skrotz 8 Feb 2021, 18:09 2 Aug 2021, 18:03

                                        @dc42 The print was with input shaping enabled:

                                        M593 P"ei2" F41 S0.10

                                        I'll try and do some more prints with input shaping and PA disabled in various combinations and see how they compare.

                                        To my eye, the width of the X and Y changing seems likely to be due to input shaping.. not necessarily bugs, but just artifacts of the movement changes happening with ei2 input shaping on. The lines that look slightly misaligned or over extruded after the X feel more like a bug that is still rattling around. More prints with various knobs on and off should help identify that potentially.

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                                          dc42 administrators @skrotz
                                          last edited by 2 Aug 2021, 18:38

                                          @skrotz I've just found and I believe fixed the bug that was affecting JenPet. It might cause slight extrusion errors on other machines using PA. New binary coming soon.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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