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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt @A Former User
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      @the_dragonlord

      Do you have an extruder 0?

      Frederick

      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        A Former User @fcwilt
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        @fcwilt said in Has anyone used the placeholders with Ideamaker in RRF?:

        @the_dragonlord

        What firmware version are you using?

        Frederick

        the latest

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          A Former User @fcwilt
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          @fcwilt said in Has anyone used the placeholders with Ideamaker in RRF?:

          @the_dragonlord

          Do you have an extruder 0?

          Frederick

          yes, I have two extruders but for this calibration I'm using only one

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @A Former User
            last edited by

            @the_dragonlord

            And you can issue a M572 in the DWC Console without an error appearing?

            Frederick

            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              A Former User @fcwilt
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              @fcwilt said in Has anyone used the placeholders with Ideamaker in RRF?:

              @the_dragonlord

              And you can issue a M572 in the DWC Console without an error appearing?

              Frederick

              yes, but maybe i've figured it out....in my original layer change gcode in my slicer there were another comand before M98, I've deleted it and now it seems to work (for now)

              Thanks!!!

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @A Former User
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                @the_dragonlord said in Has anyone used the placeholders with Ideamaker in RRF?:

                @fcwilt said in Has anyone used the placeholders with Ideamaker in RRF?:

                @the_dragonlord

                And you can issue a M572 in the DWC Console without an error appearing?

                Frederick

                yes, but maybe i've figured it out....in my original layer change gcode in my slicer there were another comand before M98, I've deleted it and now it seems to work (for now)

                Thanks!!!

                Get back to me if you have any problem with my code - it worked well for me with firmware 3.3

                Frederick

                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  A Former User @fcwilt
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                  @fcwilt said in Has anyone used the placeholders with Ideamaker in RRF?:

                  @the_dragonlord said in Has anyone used the placeholders with Ideamaker in RRF?:

                  @fcwilt said in Has anyone used the placeholders with Ideamaker in RRF?:

                  @the_dragonlord

                  And you can issue a M572 in the DWC Console without an error appearing?

                  Frederick

                  yes, but maybe i've figured it out....in my original layer change gcode in my slicer there were another comand before M98, I've deleted it and now it seems to work (for now)

                  Thanks!!!

                  Get back to me if you have any problem with my code - it worked well for me with firmware 3.3

                  Frederick

                  I will! Thanks a lot again Frederick!

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                    A Former User @fcwilt
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                    @fcwilt said in Has anyone used the placeholders with Ideamaker in RRF?:

                    @the_dragonlord said in Has anyone used the placeholders with Ideamaker in RRF?:

                    @fcwilt said in Has anyone used the placeholders with Ideamaker in RRF?:

                    @the_dragonlord

                    And you can issue a M572 in the DWC Console without an error appearing?

                    Frederick

                    yes, but maybe i've figured it out....in my original layer change gcode in my slicer there were another comand before M98, I've deleted it and now it seems to work (for now)

                    Thanks!!!

                    Get back to me if you have any problem with my code - it worked well for me with firmware 3.3

                    Frederick

                    just for asking....what kind of object do you print to set the PA? A cube or some other model?

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @A Former User
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                      @the_dragonlord said in Has anyone used the placeholders with Ideamaker in RRF?:

                      just for asking....what kind of object do you print to set the PA? A cube or some other model?

                      Well the documentation said to print a cube with the seam in the center of one face but I could not get that to work.

                      PA Documentation

                      So I printed a simple cylinder which clearly showed the effect of the changing PA setting but some folks here said that shape was a waste time and suggested different things to try.

                      My take is that I am printing actual printer parts, like the cylinder, and if PA doesn't benefit things I actually need to print then what good is it to me.

                      Still I found a setting that made a slight improvement (the seam was smoother) and I use that.

                      BUT I use Zesty Nimble remote drive extruders and they don't benefit as much from PA as do Bowden tube setups.

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • A Former User?
                        A Former User @fcwilt
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                        @fcwilt said in Has anyone used the placeholders with Ideamaker in RRF?:

                        @the_dragonlord said in Has anyone used the placeholders with Ideamaker in RRF?:

                        just for asking....what kind of object do you print to set the PA? A cube or some other model?

                        Well the documentation said to print a cube with the seam in the center of one face but I could not get that to work.

                        PA Documentation

                        So I printed a simple cylinder which clearly showed the effect of the changing PA setting but some folks here said that shape was a waste time and suggested different things to try.

                        My take is that I am printing actual printer parts, like the cylinder, and if PA doesn't benefit things I actually need to print then what good is it to me.

                        Still I found a setting that made a slight improvement (the seam was smoother) and I use that.

                        BUT I use Zesty Nimble remote drive extruders and they don't benefit as much from PA as do Bowden tube setups.

                        Frederick

                        I've printed the object you see in the pic (with some "spikes" to see the sharp corners), I've started from 0 and gone to 1,9.....I see no differences between different settings...should I go further with the settings (more than 2) or maybe I've some other setting wich are not ok in your opinion (jerk, acceleration etc)...I have a configuration with a 37cm bowden
                        20210827_185315.jpg

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt @A Former User
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                          @the_dragonlord

                          Well the docs say for Bowden tube setups the starting point would be 0.5 and up.

                          It certainly cannot hurt to test a wider range.

                          Here is my first run and you can clearly see PA affecting the print - I think I tested in 0.05 steps - but it's been awhile.

                          First PA Run

                          I then went back and tested in 0.01 steps and 0.05 produced the smoothest seam.

                          In any case using 0.05 produces objects that meet all my needs even if my testing is seriously flawed.

                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            A Former User @fcwilt
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                            @fcwilt said in Has anyone used the placeholders with Ideamaker in RRF?:

                            @the_dragonlord

                            Well the docs say for Bowden tube setups the starting point would be 0.5 and up.

                            It certainly cannot hurt to test a wider range.

                            Here is my first run and you can clearly see PA affecting the print - I think I tested in 0.05 steps - but it's been awhile.

                            First PA Run

                            I then went back and tested in 0.01 steps and 0.05 produced the smoothest seam.

                            In any case using 0.05 produces objects that meet all my needs even if my testing is seriously flawed.

                            0.05??? I'm testing until 1.9 with no result 😁

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                              A Former User @fcwilt
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                              @fcwilt said in Has anyone used the placeholders with Ideamaker in RRF?:

                              @the_dragonlord

                              Well the docs say for Bowden tube setups the starting point would be 0.5 and up.

                              It certainly cannot hurt to test a wider range.

                              Here is my first run and you can clearly see PA affecting the print - I think I tested in 0.05 steps - but it's been awhile.

                              First PA Run

                              I then went back and tested in 0.01 steps and 0.05 produced the smoothest seam.

                              In any case using 0.05 produces objects that meet all my needs even if my testing is seriously flawed.

                              what slicer are you using?

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                              • fcwiltundefined
                                fcwilt @A Former User
                                last edited by

                                @the_dragonlord

                                Simplify3D

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                • fcwiltundefined
                                  fcwilt @A Former User
                                  last edited by

                                  @the_dragonlord

                                  Did you leave that echo command in and verify that the setting seemed to be changing as expected?

                                  Frederick

                                  Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    A Former User @fcwilt
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                                    @fcwilt said in Has anyone used the placeholders with Ideamaker in RRF?:

                                    @the_dragonlord

                                    Did you leave that echo command in and verify that the setting seemed to be changing as expected?

                                    Frederick

                                    Yes, I've runned the M572 command to verify

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