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    • ASenundefined
      ASen
      last edited by

      Hey,

      After wiring a (faulty) heater cartridge. My Duet 3 Mini 5+ shutdown. Whilst searching for the error I found out that my heater cartridge was shorting. I unplugged everything from my board, but now it only works when used with a USB cable. I still have acces to the DWC. I'm guessing that a little fuse blew (maybe 12V one). My questions is, is there anyway to correct this mishap or other measurements that I can do to further debug.

      Tests:
      *When the PSU is on and connected, there is not 24V on the POWER IN pins.
      *M112:
      === Diagnostics ===
      RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 Mini 5+ version 3.3RC2 (2021-05-11 14:55:40) running on Duet 3 Mini5plus WiFi (standalone mode)
      Board ID: LDDNX-L096U-D65J0-40KMY-1503Z-RDMAJ
      Used output buffers: 3 of 40 (27 max)
      === RTOS ===
      Static ram: 102476
      Dynamic ram: 105960 of which 132 recycled
      Never used RAM 35136, free system stack 170 words
      Tasks: NETWORK(ready,15.2%,226) HEAT(notifyWait,0.0%,251) Move(notifyWait,0.1%,338) CanReceiv(notifyWait,0.0%,943) CanSender(notifyWait,0.0%,371) CanClock(delaying,0.0%,341) TMC(notifyWait,0.0%,124) MAIN(running,79.3%,412) IDLE(ready,4.6%,29) AIN(delaying,0.8%,273), total 100.0%
      Owned mutexes: WiFi(NETWORK)
      === Platform ===
      Last reset 00:02:08 ago, cause: POWER UP
      Last software reset at 2021-12-09 21:12, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 32104, slot 0
      Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x00000000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
      Error status: 0x00
      Aux0 errors 0,0,0
      Aux1 errors 0,0,0
      MCU revision 3, ADC conversions started 128713, completed 128712, timed out 0, errs 0
      Step timer max interval 1492
      MCU temperature: min 25.6, current 26.1, max 26.1
      Supply voltage: min 0.7, current 0.7, max 2.5, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: NO
      Heap OK, handles allocated/used 0/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 0/0/0, gc cycles 0
      Driver 0: position 0, ok, SG min/max not available, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 0, reads 0, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
      Driver 1: position 0, ok, SG min/max not available, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 0, reads 0, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
      Driver 2: position 0, ok, SG min/max not available, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 0, reads 0, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
      Driver 3: position 0, ok, SG min/max not available, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 0, reads 0, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
      Driver 4: position 0, ok, SG min/max not available, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 0, reads 0, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
      Driver 5: position 0, ok, SG min/max not available, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 0, reads 0, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
      Driver 6: position 0, ok, SG min/max not available, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 0, reads 0, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
      Date/time: 2021-12-10 01:00:14
      Cache data hit count 248750341
      Slowest loop: 333.24ms; fastest: 0.12ms
      === Storage ===
      Free file entries: 10
      SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 22.5MBytes/sec
      SD card longest read time 3.1ms, write time 210.7ms, max retries 0
      === Move ===
      DMs created 83, maxWait 0ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
      === MainDDARing ===
      Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
      === AuxDDARing ===
      Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
      === Heat ===
      Bed heaters = 0 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
      === GCodes ===
      Segments left: 0
      Movement lock held by null
      HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
      Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
      File is idle in state(s) 0
      USB is idle in state(s) 0
      Aux is idle in state(s) 0
      Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
      Queue is idle in state(s) 0
      LCD is idle in state(s) 0
      SBC is idle in state(s) 0
      Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
      Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
      Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
      Code queue is empty.
      === CAN ===
      Messages queued 68, send timeouts 68, received 0, lost 0, longest wait 0ms for reply type 0, peak Tx sync delay 0, free buffers 17 (min 17)
      Last cancelled message type 30 dest 127
      === Network ===
      Slowest loop: 384.00ms; fastest: 0.06ms
      Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
      HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

      • WiFi -
        Network state is active
        WiFi module is connected to access point
        Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 1
        WiFi firmware version 1.26
        WiFi MAC address d8:bf:c0:14:e8:3b
        WiFi Vcc 3.43, reset reason Power up
        WiFi flash size 2097152, free heap 24880
        WiFi IP address 192.168.0.191
        WiFi signal strength -72dBm, mode 802.11n, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
        Clock register 00002002
        Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

      Sen

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @ASen
        last edited by

        @asen

        Well if there is no voltage measured on the board power in pins then the power supply may have failed.

        Frederick

        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • ASenundefined
          ASen @fcwilt
          last edited by

          @fcwilt thank you, for your respons. Without the Duet board connected the power supply does output 24V.

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @ASen
            last edited by

            @asen said in Power problem: not getting 24V:

            @fcwilt thank you, for your respons. Without the Duet board connected the power supply does output 24V.

            When you test it with the power supply connected have you disconnected everything else from the board?

            Frederick

            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • ASenundefined
              ASen @fcwilt
              last edited by

              @fcwilt Yes, only the WIFI antenna was connected.

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @ASen
                last edited by

                @asen said in Power problem: not getting 24V:

                @fcwilt Yes, only the WIFI antenna was connected.

                Well that suggests something on the board has failed and is shorting out the power supply - thus not voltage is measured on the board power in pins.

                However I don't know the board hardware well enough to know what that might be.

                @dc42 would surely know.

                Is there anything on the board that looks burnt or swollen?

                Frederick

                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                • ASenundefined
                  ASen @fcwilt
                  last edited by

                  @fcwilt 264029759_394666042437380_2398617434219195462_n.jpg 263825373_311144420865471_2698461340916705192_n.jpg

                  Not that I can see of.

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @ASen
                    last edited by

                    @asen

                    I don't see anything either.

                    Well it is possible, though not likely, that the power supply has failed in a way that prevents it from putting out any power under load (when connected to the duet board).

                    Do you have another power supply you could try?

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • ASenundefined
                      ASen @ASen
                      last edited by

                      @asen Tomorrow, I'll try in the lab with an 5A 30V Adjustable DC Power Supply. Should be okay to test with, I think. I'll post my findings/measurements.

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Have you tested the fuses for continuity?
                        Do you notice any components getting hot when VIN is applied?
                        What LEDs light up when VIN is applied?

                        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                        • ASenundefined
                          ASen @ASen
                          last edited by

                          @asen Good news, when plugged to the LAB PSU, the 12V LED lid up. With nothing plugged into it, their is a current draw of 0.1A. I've taken a temporary 24V-6.5A PSU.
                          ps: Yes, I know the wiring is not adequate, it was just for a quick test. When used with a PSU all my cables are crimped.
                          To do: Test it with the new PSU, if everything works as intended I'll write it. 264137967_447771673522757_3157268534598218446_n.jpg

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                          • ASenundefined
                            ASen @Phaedrux
                            last edited by ASen

                            @phaedrux Yes, if you're talking about the two big fuses by the VIN port. Both are still good.
                            Nothing is getting hot. For your last question I kindly refer you to my latest reply on this thread.
                            thank you

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                            • fcwiltundefined
                              fcwilt @ASen
                              last edited by

                              @asen

                              So you have concluded that the existing 24 power supply has failed?

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              • ASenundefined
                                ASen @fcwilt
                                last edited by

                                @fcwilt Yes, just tested with the new PSU. Works again, Thank you for your help. This thread can be marked as solved.

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