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    • osteracundefined
      osterac @fractalengineer
      last edited by osterac

      @fractalengineer
      On Thingiverse it says version 1.2 and various parts have various revision numbers - the parts for the body do not have revision numbers. I found it hard to tell which file to print because there are stl files with no revision numbers and 3mf files that do have revision numbers. I just printed the stl files. I do have the schmitt-trigger that is linked to on thingiverse.
      I checked out the grip of the wheel and there is one spot on the wheel that doesn't grip quite as well as the rest. Could be that it is slipping during retraction.
      Here's my sensor:
      20220424_150213.jpg

      edit I cracked it open and there seems to be a very slight indentation on the rubber wheel. I'll try printing a new one.

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      • fractalengineerundefined
        fractalengineer @osterac
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        @osterac Ok I just updated the whole files on the thing; there's only one version now for clarity

        And yep you really need your seams to be well tuned on that wheel; if they're protruding a bit you can still trim them with flush cutters or a razor blade

        Railcore II ZL

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        • osteracundefined
          osterac @fractalengineer
          last edited by osterac

          @fractalengineer
          Finally got my printer to make a decent wheel. Here's the result of calibration now:

          m591 d0
          Pulse-type filament monitor on pin e0stop, disabled, sensitivity 25.992mm/pulse, allowed movement 55% to 95%, check every 51.0mm, measured sensitivity 24.010mm/pulse, measured minimum 87%, maximum 177% over 33326.1mm
          

          Look okay? Is 177% too high?

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators @osterac
            last edited by dc42

            @osterac you have a very high mm per pulse value (24mm). So you can only measure filament lengths to the nearest multiple of 24mm. This means that in order to get accurate measurements, the length of filament sampled must be many times 24mm. You are using only 51mm, so you can expect to get large variations. If you increase the sampling length to 100mm or more, the variation will reduce.

            The instructions on the page you linked to say that the mm per pulse should be 1.2mm, so I don't think you can have built it correctly.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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            • osteracundefined
              osterac @dc42
              last edited by

              @dc42

              Thanks for explaining that, always helps to know how things work.

              I could try re-printing the sensor wheel... Or
              maybe my sensor is defective? There are some models of the sensor wheel with fewer teeth but that seems like it would decrease accuracy?
              Could it still be a problem with slippage?

              Sorry for all the questions... Hope I'm not bothering you...

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                It's no bother at all. We're here to try and help people figure it all out.

                Can you make a video of your extruder in use?

                Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                • osteracundefined
                  osterac @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @phaedrux

                  Here's a YouTube link
                  https://youtu.be/xuf4eaktg_w

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @osterac
                    last edited by

                    @osterac thanks. It appear s to me that the flashing of the red light in the filament monitor is in frequent (so the 24mm per pulse value is believable) but is also somewhat erratic. Perhaps there isn't a clear path between the opto switch transmitter and receiver through the slots in the wheel?

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                    • osteracundefined
                      osterac @dc42
                      last edited by

                      @dc42 figured it out I think. The mounting screws for the sensor were too long so they weren't properly seating the sensor. Now that the sensor is in nice and tight the blinking is consistent. Haven't calibrated yet though.

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                      • osteracundefined
                        osterac
                        last edited by

                        Yeah, looks good. Here's the calibration:

                        Pulse-type filament monitor on pin e0stop, disabled, sensitivity 4.141mm/pulse, allowed movement 95% to 103%, check every 51.0mm, measured sensitivity 4.186mm/pulse, measured minimum 97%, maximum 101% over 1837.5mm
                        

                        I used the 12x sensor wheel rather than the default 24x wheel (fewer teeth), not sure if that helps or not.

                        Anyway, thanks for your help guys. I appreciate it.

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