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    chickenwoman
    last edited by 21 May 2022, 20:03

    I just updated from reprap 2 to 3.4.0 on a Duet WIFI with a Duex5. Actually I switched from Klipper and did a clean install straight to 3.4.0. Whenever the height map is loaded the X and Y steppers become noisy, the Z are fine. I know the height map effects the Z axes but I can't figure out why the X and Y. It didn't do this in RRF2. Any help would be great. Here's a copy of my config file. Thanks

    ; Modix Big-60, Duex Expansion, Dual Printhead
    ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3.3 or 3.4)
    ; Generated by Modix - Version 3.3 Config B

    ; General preferences_________________________________________________________
    G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
    M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
    M111 S0 ; Debug off
    M555 P2 ; Set output to look like Marlin
    M575 P1 B57600 S1 ; Set auxiliary serial port baud rate and require checksum (for PanelDue)

    ; Network_____________________________________________________________________
    M550 P"Big 60" ; set printer name
    ;M551 P"MODIX3D" ; Set password (optional)
    M552 S1 ; enable network
    ;M552 P0.0.0.0 ; Uncomment this command for using Duet Ethernet board
    M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
    M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
    M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

    ; Drives_________________________________________________________________________
    ;Main board______________________________________________________________________
    M569 P0 S1 ; Physical drive 0 . X1
    M569 P1 S1 ; Physical drive 1 . X2
    M569 P2 R-1 ; Physical drive 2 . Canceled
    M569 P3 S1 ; Physical drive 3 . Main Extruder
    M569 P4 S0 ; Physical drive 4 . Y
    ;Duex5 board_____________________________________________________________________
    M569 P5 R-1 ; Physical drive 5 . Cancelled
    M569 P6 S0 ; Physical drive 6 . Z1 (0,600)
    M569 P7 S0 ; Physical drive 7 . Z2 (0,0)
    M569 P8 S0 ; Physical drive 8 . Z3 (600,0)
    M569 P9 S0 ; Physical drive 9 . Z4 (600,600)

    ;Settings_________________________________________________________
    M584 X0:1 Y4 Z6:7:8:9 E3 P3 ; Driver mapping
    M671 X-185:668:668:-185 Y-46:-46:668:668 S30 ; Anticlockwise
    ;___________________________________________________________________
    M350 X16 Y16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
    M350 Z16 I0 ; Configure microstepping without interpolation
    M92 X100 Y100 Z2000 E418.5 ; Set steps per mm
    M566 X360 Y360 Z60 E120 P1 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)x240 z30
    M203 X9000 Y9000 Z200 E12000 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
    M201 X1000 Y1000 Z120 E500:500 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
    M204 P500 ; Set print and travel accelerations (mm/s^2)
    M906 X1600:1600 Y1800 E1000 I50 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
    M906 Z1600 I50 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
    M84 S100 ; Set idle timeout - 100 seconds

    ; Axis Limits
    M208 X0 Y0 Z-1 S1 ; set axis minima
    M208 X615 Y600 Z670 S0 ; set axis maxima

    ; Endstops
    M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on X via pin xstop + e0stop
    M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop

    ; Z-Probe

    M98 P"config_probe.g"
    M557 X-13:585 Y22:620 P10:10 ; define mesh grid
    M376 H10 ; taper mesh at 10mm
    ; The Z_offset value is now set in config_probe.g, not in config.g
    ; Adjust the values there, do not adjust anything here.

    ; Heaters___________________________________________________________
    M140 H-1 ; disable heated bed (overrides default heater mapping)

    ;E0_________________________________________________________________
    M308 S0 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin e0temp
    M950 H0 C"e0heat" T0 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 0
    ;M307 H0 B0 S1 ; PID calibration
    M143 H0 S285 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 285C

    ;E1_________________________________________________________________
    ;M308 S1 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e1temp
    ;M950 H1 C"e1heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e1heat and map it to sensor 1
    ;M307 H1 B0 S1 ; PID calibration
    ;M143 H1 S285 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 285C

    ; Fans______________________________________________________________
    M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
    M106 P0 S0 H-1 C"Primary blower fan" ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
    ;M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
    ;M106 P1 S0 H-1 C"Secondary blower fan" ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
    M950 F2 C"duex.fan7" Q500 ; create LED on pin fan2 and set its frequency
    M106 P2 S0 H-1 C"LED" ; Disable fan channel for LED
    M106 P2 S255 ; LED on by default
    M950 F3 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 3 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
    M106 P3 S255 H0 T45 ; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
    M950 F4 C"duex.fan6" Q500 ; create fan 4 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
    M106 P4 S255 H1 T45 ; set fan 4 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

    ; Tools______________________________________________________________
    ;T0_________________________________________________________________
    M563 P0 S"E0 Primary" D0 H0 F0 ; define tool 0
    G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
    G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

    ;T1_________________________________________________________________
    ;M563 P1 S"E1 Secondary" D1 H1 F1 ; define tool 1
    ;G10 P1 X0 Y49 Z0 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
    ;G10 P1 R0 S210 ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

    ; Automatic power saving____________________________________________
    M911 S22.5 R29.0 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; Set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss. Power Failure Pause

    ; Custom settings__________________________________________________
    ;M591 D0 P1 C"duex.e2stop" S1 ; Regular filament sensor for E0
    ;M591 D1 P1 C"duex.e3stop" S1 ; Regular filament sensor for E1
    T0

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      dc42 administrators @chickenwoman
      last edited by dc42 22 May 2022, 09:18

      @chickenwoman said in 3.4.0 Height map causing X Y stepper noise:

      M566 X360 Y360 Z60 E120 P1 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)x240 z30

      Most likely it is the low value of Z jerk (60mm/min) that is causing the problem. When you enable the height map, the Z motor has to make adjustments as the XY position changes, and sometimes an abrupt change in speed is needed. If the required speed change at the requested XY movement speed exceeds the Z jerk limit, then the XY speed has t be reduced at that point to bring the Z jerk within the limit you have set. This slows down XY motion, and these speed changes are probably causing the increased XY movement noise.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        chickenwoman
        last edited by 22 May 2022, 18:42

        @dc42
        I figured it out. I have interpolation turned on for X and Y and off for Z. In my config for RRF2 I had interpolation turned on for all. I turned interpolation back on for Z and it sounds fine. I'm not sure why Modix changed it to be off. Is there and advantage to having Z I0 with a belt driven Z axes? It's much smoother and quieter with it on. Strangely it didn't effect the noise on the Z axes at all. They stayed quiet with both settings.

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          ComedianTF2 @chickenwoman
          last edited by 23 May 2022, 12:00

          @chickenwoman

          We changed the interpolation to be off as we were testing the effects, but seems that we forgot to turn it back on during firmware dev. With the Zsteps being 2000steps/mm, interpolation should definitely be on.

          I will look at the acceleration and jerk settings again, as those haven't been looked at since the release of the V3 printer and could definitely be higher

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