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    • TOFUATSUundefined
      TOFUATSU
      last edited by TOFUATSU

      So after coming along a great deal, I finally melted some plastic. The first layer went fantastic then z went the wrong direction.

      I have a duet 3 mini 5+ WiFi. CoreXY configuration.

      It homes correctly. (Finally)

      I used the prusa slicer to make the print.

      Should I put my config.g file(below) and the homeall in the slicer startup gcode?

      I switched to advanced in the slicer so I could see all the menu items. I did not see any setting that controls the Z direction. Or even the printer configuration itself…

      Configuration file for Duet 3 Mini 5+ (firmware version 3.3)
      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.16 on Fri Aug 11 2023 17:43:56 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

      ; General preferences
      M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
      G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
      M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
      M550 P"CoreXY" ; set printer name
      M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode

      ; Network
      M552 S1 ; enable network
      M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
      M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
      M586 P2 S1 ; enable Telnet

      ; Drives
      M569 P0.0 S1 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
      M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
      M569 P0.2 S1 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forkwards
      M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
      M569 P0.4 S1 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
      M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2:0.3 E0.4 ; set drive mapping
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
      M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E409.00 ; set steps per mm
      M566 X600.00 Y600.00 Z12.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z100.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

      ; Axis Limits
      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
      M208 X300 Y300 Z380 S0 ; set axis maxima

      ; Endstops
      M574 X1 S1 P"!io5.in" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on X via pin io5.in
      M574 Y1 S1 P"!io6.in" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on Y via pin io6.in

      ; Z-Probe
      M950 S0 C"io3.out" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
      M558 P9 C"io3.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
      G31 P500 X150 Y150 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
      M557 X15:215 Y15:195 S20 ; define mesh grid

      ; Heaters
      M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
      M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
      M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
      M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
      M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
      M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
      M950 H1 C"out1" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
      M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
      M143 H1 S285 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 285C

      ; Fans
      M950 F0 C"out6" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out6 and set its frequency
      M106 P0 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
      M950 F1 C"out5" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out5 and set its frequency
      M106 P1 S0 H-1 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

      ; Tools
      M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
      G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

      ; Custom settings are not defined

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      • deckingmanundefined
        deckingman @TOFUATSU
        last edited by

        @TOFUATSU You must be homing Z in the wrong direction. Probably you have your X end stop or probe set to the low end of the axis when it should be the high end or vice versa.

        Ian
        https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
        https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by

          Post your homeall.g and homez.g

          After homing are you able to jog the z axis correctly? As in Z+ makes the nozzle and bed farther apart? Z- makes it closer together?

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          • TOFUATSUundefined
            TOFUATSU @Phaedrux
            last edited by TOFUATSU

            @Phaedrux
            Yes it goes correctly when I manually move it.

            However, this is a coreXY machine and I feel like the z motors should be set to run backwards. I have them set to run forwards.

            It weird, I am switching out a duet 2 wifi that I accidentally fried switching to a CRTouch. Other than that it’s all the same everything.

            I tried to reverse everything, motors and the z commands in all the home.g files, but it homed the wrong way.

            Would switch the poles on the motor work?

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              switching the motor wiring is the same effect as changing the direction of rotation in the config.

              You shouldn't change the homing file. Your Z moves need to follow Z- moves bed and nozzle closer together and Z+ moves them farther away. That's just the way it is. The only thing you have control over is where the endstops are located, either high end or low end of travel and how that is set in the config, and finally the direction of rotation of the motors. You can flip that one way or the other so that the Z- and Z+ travel in the expected direction.

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                Post your homing files.

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                • TOFUATSUundefined
                  TOFUATSU @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @Phaedrux ;
                  I just ran this with success

                  homez.g
                  ; Called to home the Z axis
                  ;
                  G91 ; Relative positioning
                  G1 H2 Z10 F10000 ; Lift Z relative to current position
                  M280 P0 S10 ; Extend the probe pin
                  G90 ; Use absolute positioning
                  G1 X143 Y155 F6000 ; Go to the probe point
                  G30 ; Home the Z axis by probing the bed
                  G91 ; Use relative positioning
                  G1 Z5 F100 ; lift Z relative to current position
                  G90 ; absolute positioning
                  M280 P0 S90 ; Retract probe pin
                  ;

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                  • TOFUATSUundefined
                    TOFUATSU @Phaedrux
                    last edited by TOFUATSU

                    @Phaedrux said in Z traveling wrong direction during printing:

                    switching the motor wiring is the same effect as changing the direction of rotation in the config.

                    You shouldn't change the homing file. Your Z moves need to follow Z- moves bed and nozzle closer together and Z+ moves them farther away. That's just the way it is. The only thing you have control over is where the endstops are located, either high end or low end of travel and how that is set in the config, and finally the direction of rotation of the motors. You can flip that one way or the other so that the Z- and Z+ travel in the expected direction.

                    This is how mine is going. -Z moves the bed up, toward the nozzle. +Z moves it down.

                    Gonna try a different slicer

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Can you share the gcode file you're printing?

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                      • TOFUATSUundefined
                        TOFUATSU @Phaedrux
                        last edited by

                        @Phaedrux it seems that I have some setting in the prusa slicer messed up. The Cura sliced it and it travels correctly

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