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    • Cinproundefined
      Cinpro
      last edited by

      I am able to turn the print cooling fan on manually in the DWC, but its not turning on by itself at layer 3 like it should. I'm reinstalling my slicer now. is there anything the Firmware that could contribute to this? should I reinstall it if reinstalling my slicer doesn't do the trick?The tech support from S3D just give canned answers that don't really fit the problem.

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      • botundefined
        bot
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        Some fans require a minimum voltage (PWM value) to start spinning. Sometimes, you can then lower the speed a bit afterwards, they just need a boost to get started spinning.

        EG, my print fans won't turn on below about 30% power.

        *not actually a robot

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        • Cinproundefined
          Cinpro
          last edited by

          this was working fine, now it hit or miss as to whether they will turn on or not.

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
            last edited by

            Here are some reasons why the print cooling fan might not be coming on:

            1. Bad connection in the wiring. It might be OK in some head positions and not ok in others.

            2. If the slicer is commanding the fan to turn on at less than full speed, you might need to change the PWM frequency. Lower frequency may help. Or you may need to use a longer blip time. Both of these are parameters in the M106 command. Some fans just don't like PWM.

            3. If your printer is a delta with magnetic arm joints, some fans don't work properly in the presence of the magnetic fields from the joints.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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            • Cinproundefined
              Cinpro
              last edited by

              1. all new wiring and I have already replaced the connectors
              2. I have the blip to full speed enabled, however I can still turn the fan on @ 3% manually in the DWC and it comes on. it doesn't even show that it should be on in the DWC, BOTH are at 0. its like it never got the command.
              3. CoreXY

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              • deckingmanundefined
                deckingman
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                If you can turn it "manually" through DWC then logic would dictate that the slicer isn't putting the M106 command in the file (or that it is putting M106 but with other parameters which prevent the fan from running). In your OP you state that the fan ought to come on at layer 3, so take a look at the gcode file and see if there is an M106 soon after the G1 Znnn (where nnn corresponds to the height for layer 3). If the M106 command is there, what comes after it? Full speed would be M106 S255.

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                • Cinproundefined
                  Cinpro
                  last edited by

                  G1 E-8.1000 F3000
                  G1 Z1.469 F1800
                  ; layer 3, Z = 0.469
                  M106 S255
                  G4 P500
                  M106 S71
                  M105

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                  • Cinproundefined
                    Cinpro
                    last edited by

                    just an FYI does the same thing when I use Slic3r, will check out hardware tomorrow if time allows.

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by

                      Do those same commands (M106 S255, wait half a second, then M106 S71) work when you send them manually, with the same tool selected?

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                      • Cinproundefined
                        Cinpro
                        last edited by

                        typing those into the G-code window does not get the fan to move, the fan slider still does

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by

                          @Cinpro:

                          typing those into the G-code window does not get the fan to move, the fan slider still does

                          Are you certain that you have a tool selected (type T by itself to check), and that the fan mapping for that tool is correct (type M563 P# to check, where # is the tool number)?

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                          • Cinproundefined
                            Cinpro
                            last edited by

                            M563 P0
                            Tool 0 - drives: 0; heaters (active/standby temps): 1 (0.0/0.0); xmap: X; ymap: Y; fans: 0; status: selected

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              Which fan connector do you have the print cooling fan connected to? With that configuration, it should be fan 0.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                              • Cinproundefined
                                Cinpro
                                last edited by

                                I think I got it, it is mapped to fan 0, but I only had fan 2 available for PWM. I got a new board so I have have this one repaired (have to find someone, my hands shake too badly) when I swapped everything to the new board I put all the fans exactly where they were. so fan 0 got triggered, but since it wasn't there, no cooling fan. in future if I have a problem with a fan o can I map the firmware to tell it to use say fan 1 or fan 2? and one for the suggestion box, make the fans match in the firmware and the DWC having 0,1,2 and 1,2,3 is annoying.

                                going to do a test print now to verify this, but the g-code you gave me earlier seems to work. thanks 😄

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
                                  last edited by

                                  If you add parameter F2 to your M563 P0 command, then fan 0 will be mapped to fan 2 when tool 0 is selected.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                  • Cinproundefined
                                    Cinpro
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                                    grr thats not it! 😞

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                                    • Cinproundefined
                                      Cinpro
                                      last edited by

                                      M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                      M106 P1 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                      M106 P2 S0 I0 F255 H-1 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by

                                        Which fan connector do you have your print cooling fan connected to at present?

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                        • Cinproundefined
                                          Cinpro
                                          last edited by

                                          fan0

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