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    kj3d
    last edited by 29 Sept 2023, 12:38

    Version 3.4.6 works fine, but upgrading the main board to the rc1 version (working in standalone mode) fails to find any of the Canbus devices.

    Any Ideas why?

    undefined 1 Reply Last reply 29 Sept 2023, 12:42 Reply Quote 0
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      droftarts administrators @kj3d
      last edited by 29 Sept 2023, 12:42

      @kj3d Most likely you need to update the expansion boards' firmware, too. See https://docs.duet3d.com/User_manual/Machine_configuration/CAN_connection#updating-duet-3-expansion-board-firmware

      Ian

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      undefined 1 Reply Last reply 29 Sept 2023, 13:05 Reply Quote 0
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        kj3d @droftarts
        last edited by 29 Sept 2023, 13:05

        @droftarts Thanks for your reply. After several reboots the machine now sees the canbus devices - but running a home x (or any home cycle) comes up with an error as below

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        undefined 1 Reply Last reply 29 Sept 2023, 13:23 Reply Quote 0
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          kj3d @kj3d
          last edited by 29 Sept 2023, 13:23

          @droftarts

          You were right - I updated all the boards to RC1 and its now seeing everything. In open mode its behaving well. However in closed loop mode its doing some strange things - but will try tuning using the 3.5 tool and if it continues will start another post about the strange movements in closed loop mode.

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          undefined 1 Reply Last reply 30 Sept 2023, 07:10 Reply Quote 0
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            dc42 administrators @kj3d
            last edited by 30 Sept 2023, 07:10

            @kj3d the PID control for closed loop mode has been extensively changed in 3.5 so the PID parameters from 3.4 won't work well after upgrading the 1HCL firmware to 3.5. There are some new feedforward constants that you also need to tune.

            Once tuned, you should find that the motors are much quieter in closed loop mode than with 3.4.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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            undefined 1 Reply Last reply 30 Sept 2023, 12:15 Reply Quote 0
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              kj3d @dc42
              last edited by kj3d 30 Sept 2023, 12:15

              @dc42 - Thanks for your reply, I have tried to find some written guidance in respect to that (and the issue I am having loading the tuning tool) Please point me in the right direction !!

              I have read https://docs.duet3d.com/User_manual/Tuning/Duet_3_1HCL_tuning

              undefined 1 Reply Last reply 1 Oct 2023, 06:45 Reply Quote 0
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                dc42 administrators @kj3d
                last edited by 1 Oct 2023, 06:45

                @kj3d that's the correct page. The section at https://docs.duet3d.com/User_manual/Tuning/Duet_3_1HCL_tuning#manual-tuning has separate tabs for 3.4 and 3.5 series firmware.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

                undefined 1 Reply Last reply 1 Oct 2023, 11:22 Reply Quote 0
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                  kj3d @dc42
                  last edited by 1 Oct 2023, 11:22

                  @dc42 - Thanks

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