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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      I didn't spot anything wrong with that configuration. Please post your complete config.g file, then I will run it on one of my test setups.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • deckingmanundefined
        deckingman
        last edited by

        If the carriage starts to move diagonally on a CoreXY, that would indicate a problem with just one motor. I've just tried moving at F360 on my CoreXY and it works fine (same firmware). My speed, and accel settings settings are a little different but not significantly and my steps per mm are identical. My motor current is a little higher at 1800mA but my moving mass in Y is 4Kg.

        With motors off (M84) do the axes moves freely by hand? No sign of anything sticking or binding? Any loose or bad connections in the motor wiring?

        Ian
        https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
        https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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        • jdelahayesundefined
          jdelahayes
          last edited by

          @dc42, I'm at work, I will send it to you tonigh.

          @deckingman, yes i can freely move it by hand with motor off. Nothing is sticking or binding. Motor connections seems to be ok .

          MZBOT Voron 1.5 with DuetEthernet

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          • jdelahayesundefined
            jdelahayes
            last edited by

            This is my last complete config.g file :

            [[language]]
            ; General preferences
            M111 S0 	; Debugging off
            G21 		; Work in millimetres
            G90 		; Send absolute coordinates...
            M83 		; ...but relative extruder moves
            M555 P2 	; Set firmware compatibility to look like Marlin
            
            M667 S1 		; Select CoreXY mode
            
            ; Bed size
            M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 	; Set axis minima
            M208 X230 Y230 Z210 S0 	; Set axis maxima
            
            ; Endstops
            M574 X1 Y1 Z1 S1 				; Set low end active high endstops on all axis
            
            ; Mesh grid
            M557 X15:215 Y15:215 S20
            
            ; Drives
            M569 P0 S1 				; Drive 0 goes forwards
            M569 P1 S1 				; Drive 1 goes forwards
            M569 P2 S1 				; Drive 2 goes forwards
            M569 P3 S1 				; Drive 3 goes forwards
            M569 P4 S1 				; Drive 4 goes forwards
            
            M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1 		; Configure microstepping with interpolation
            
            M92 X80 Y80 Z400 E608:608 		; Set steps per mm
            M566 X1000 Y1000 Z100 E500:500 		; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
            M203 X18000 Y18000 Z1000 E9000:9000 	; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
            M201 X3000 Y3000 Z500 E3000:3000 	; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
            M906 X1700 Y1700 Z1700 E1700:1700 I30 	; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
            M84 S120 				; Set idle timeout
            
            ; Heaters
            M301 H0 S1.00 P10 I0.1 D200 T0.4 W180 B30 	; Use PID on bed heater (may require further tuning)
            M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 			; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
            M143 H0 S120 					; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
            M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 			; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
            M143 H1 S280 					; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
            M305 P2 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 			; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
            M143 H2 S280 					; Set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C
            
            ; Tools
            M563 P0 D0 H1 		; Define tool 0
            G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 	; Set tool 0 axis offsets
            G10 P0 R0 S0 		; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
            M563 P1 D1 H2 		; Define tool 1
            G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 	; Set tool 1 axis offsets
            G10 P1 R0 S0 		; Set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
            
            ; Network
            M550 PK3D 		; Set machine name
            M540 PBE:EF:DE:AD:FE:ED ; Set MAC address
            M552 P0.0.0.0 S1 	; Enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
            M586 P0 S1 		; Enable HTTP
            M586 P1 S0 		; Disable FTP
            M586 P2 S0 		; Disable Telnet
            
            ; Fans
            M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 		; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
            M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1:2 T45 	; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
            M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1:2 T45 	; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
            
            ; Custom settings are not configured
            
            

            MZBOT Voron 1.5 with DuetEthernet

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            • deckingmanundefined
              deckingman
              last edited by

              Nothing obvious is leaping out at me from that config.g. Comparing yours with mine the only real difference is that your motor directions are mostly the opposite to mine but that doesn't mean anything as it depends on the individual motors. If everything moves correctly at 3600mm/min then the motor direction must be correct. Which brings me back to something mechanical or wiring, rather than configuration. Are the pulleys all tight on the motor shafts? Nothing slipping?

              Ian
              https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
              https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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              • jdelahayesundefined
                jdelahayes
                last edited by

                All is working well with my RAMPS board so i think it's not a mechanical or wiring problem .
                I will check it twice tonight …

                MZBOT Voron 1.5 with DuetEthernet

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by

                  Try doing diagonal moves at F360 and see if the movement is jerky in one of both diagonal directions. That may pin the problem down to a single driver/cable/motor.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • jdelahayesundefined
                    jdelahayes
                    last edited by

                    Thank you dc42, I set G91 then …

                    ... with A motor on X driver, B motor on Y driver :
                    G1 X-20 Y20 F360 => smooth (only B motor moves)
                    G1 X20 Y20 F360 => jerky (A motor "try" to moves)

                    ... with A motor on Y driver, B motor on X driver :
                    G1 X-20 Y20 F360 => smooth (only A motor moves)
                    G1 X20 Y20 F360 => jerky (B motor "try" to moves)

                    It's probably a X driver problem, no ?

                    This is already a replacement. The first one having the same problem but with Z driver !
                    I will recontact Roland ... i'm a bit dissapointed ... Fortunately they have quickly treat the problem the first time. Hope this will be as quickly this time. More than 2 weeks without 3d printer, it's hard 🙂

                    Thank you all for your help.

                    MZBOT Voron 1.5 with DuetEthernet

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by

                      I'm sorry you seem to have received a board with a faulty driver again. We have recently changed our test procedure to stress the drivers more, so will hopefully weed out more weak drivers during testing. It sounds as though we should do a low speed test too, as the problem you encountered didn't appear at higher speeds.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • jdelahayesundefined
                        jdelahayes
                        last edited by

                        Ok, these are things that happen!
                        I'm happy to contribute to have better Duet board 😉

                        MZBOT Voron 1.5 with DuetEthernet

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                        • jdelahayesundefined
                          jdelahayes
                          last edited by

                          Hi David

                          I received my new board a week ago and it's working like a charm.

                          I want to thank Roland from Think3dPrint3d for the great customer service and you, David, for your rapid and efficient help to find and solve my problem.

                          The duetEthernet is a really good controller and i'm now fully convince to have make the right choice.

                          Thank you all and have a merry christmas and a happy new year !

                          Johann

                          MZBOT Voron 1.5 with DuetEthernet

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